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Post by Manathern on May 17, 2017 13:25:36 GMT
Hello faithful!
I'm going to a tournament next week and I'm trying to tweak my Amon list... Thus far I have 3 ideas (keep in mind I build a list with what I have atm, I only have 1 Dervish... ^_^''' ). What are your opinions?
High Allegiant Amon Ad-Raza
(No Theme)
Blood of Martyrs
Scourge of Heresy
3x Crusaders
Dervish
Vigilant
2x Allegiants of the Order of the Fist
2x Vassal of Menoth
Vassal Mecanick
Anastasia di Bray
2x Wrack
2x min Choir of Menoth
OR
High Allegiant Amon Ad-Raza
(Creator's Might)
Vigilant
3x Crusaders
2x Castigators
2x Indictors
2x Vassal of Menoth
2x Vassal Mecaniks
2x Wrack
2x min Choir of Menoth
OR
High Allegiant Amon Ad-Raza
(Creator's Might)
Vigilant
2x Crusaders
2x Reckonners
2x Indictors
2x Vassal of Menoth
2x Vassal Mecaniks
3x Wrack (Creator's Might)
2x min Choir of Menoth
I like Indictors with Amon because they force your opponent to make choice on where to go and what to hit... Especially Hordes factions.
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Post by macdaddy on May 17, 2017 13:52:56 GMT
I really like the second list I think castigators threat with mobility and then being POW 21 at the end of a synergy chain just seems awesome. Threat total of 11" inches is pretty solid too. Im working on running an amon list with all the heavies as I too lack a plethora of dervishes  |
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Post by Anonymous on May 17, 2017 14:19:15 GMT
High Allegiant Amon Ad-Raza
3x Castigator
3x Dervish
1x Templar
1x Devout
1x Vigilant
2x Minimum Choir
1x Hierophant
3x Wrack
I ran this at the start of the new edition. I am a big fan of 11" threat for most models outside the vigilant which is just there to protect Amon. I enjoy having the templar as a second shield guard as well for those wild shots that would hit Amon.
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Post by Vyngynce on May 17, 2017 14:24:43 GMT
I agree with macdaddy. The second list is the better one. Castigators are also really good at unjamming your line with their star attack. I know Amon has field martial parry, but sometimes you just need to clear a charge lane for your other jacks.
I was one of the people who jumped on the Dervish bandwagon, and it was ok. The real MVP with Amon is the devout, in my opinion. Besides all the defensive tech that you usually bring him for, the Devout is MAT 7 with a 2 inch reach. He is so good at getting that synergy chain started. On the other hand, max synergy Devouts hit at PS 18 under battle at MAT 10, again with the 2 inch reach.
Anyways, I think your 7 heavy list is great. That provides a pretty awful nut for people to crack.
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Post by Andrivan on May 21, 2017 15:45:15 GMT
I think that the Crusaders Might theme force is the way to go so that drops list 1. In lists 2 and 3 what is protecting Amon from ranged assassination?
To follow up, have you considered Templars with Amon? They hit at P&S 22 at the end of the Synergy chain and have shield guard and beat back. Both abilities that you can use to protect Amon and other key pieces in the army. They would be a good replacement for Castigators. As well, Amon will have difficulty with infantry, so I'd suggest taking Vanquishers over Reckoners. As well, Synergized threshers are a thing of beauty.
In terms of helping you out with any suggestions, what jacks (and support) do you own?
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Post by Manathern on May 23, 2017 18:37:10 GMT
In terms of helping you out with any suggestions, what jacks (and support) do you own? Thanks for the help ! Heavies:3x Crusaders (would you buy a 4th?) 2x Reckoners 2x Castigators 1x Guardian 1x Sanctifier 1x Templar 1x Vanquisher 2x Indictors Light:1x Devout 3x Revengers 1x Dervish (Ordered 2 more, but won't get them in time. Would 4 or more be a good idea in general?) 3x Repenters 1x Vigilant Characters:Avatar of Menoth Blessing of Vengence Blood of Martyr Eye of Truth Hand of Judgement Scourge of Heresy Support:2x Choir of Menoth 2x Vassal of Menoth 2x Vassal Mechanik 3x Wrack 1x Reclaimer Gate Keeper Initiate Tristant Durant The Covenant of Menoth |
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Post by streetpizza on May 23, 2017 19:04:40 GMT
As far as more dervishes go Mana I would stop at four unless you don't mind the expense. There is really only one list that uses more than four and its spamming them with Amon. That spam list can be really fun but its a lot of money to sink into a single niche list.
Save the money and get a revelator when it finally releases in 2021.
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Provengreil
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Post by Provengreil on May 23, 2017 21:28:11 GMT
Amon will work best in theme, creator's might or exemplar interdiction.
First off, as a low ARM caster who burns at minimum half his focus per turn, I consider a vigilant absolutely necessary. Then, you always want at least one massive heavy hitter, so any Menoth heavy. Finally, synergy caps at +3, so a balance between spam and quality is encouraged.
Character jacks's benefits are largely mitigated by Synergy, and they're costly, so he doesn't miss them in theme.
I'd say:
Amon, creator's might
- heirophant (free)
-Castigator
-Templar
-Crusader
-Indictor
-Viglant
-Dervish
-2X Revenger
Covenant(free)
2X Vassal
3X Wrack (free)
2X Mechanic
2X Choir, min
this covers all your jacks with choir, mitigates focus issues, gets the upkeeps out free, has revengers to absorb charges/use powerful charge to build synergy, and brings a few heavy hitters capable of taken out a jack and a half once synergy is built by the lights.
Lists like this will die very soon though: that bane theme risks making a "cryx drop" a thing again.
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moquan
Junior Strategist
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Post by moquan on May 24, 2017 9:18:39 GMT
List 2 seems best. If I may add a suggestion, change the 2 indictors and 2 mechaniks to 2 reckoners.
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