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Post by Azahul on Feb 5, 2020 23:52:21 GMT
Primed bashers are decent. With the stone's +1 str they can get some work done and trade well. Primaled* Primed is the Warrior model one
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Post by elricaltovilla on Feb 6, 2020 12:28:02 GMT
I have another wishlist for the CID: Braylen 2 as an attachment for Trollkin Highwaymen with Granted: Prey and Tactics: War-Tempered.
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Post by deathbymelancholy on Feb 6, 2020 16:12:03 GMT
Can my Trolls channel through a Blindwalker? Because I'll take that all day.
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Post by Kevin on Feb 6, 2020 16:41:09 GMT
Is he farrow?
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Post by gobber on Feb 6, 2020 20:36:18 GMT
Can my Trolls channel through a Blindwalker? Because I'll take that all day. Not gonna happen since this theme is an alliance of dhunia's children, swamp beasts are controlled by devourer magic while the farrow/troll ones are dhunian.
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Post by Azahul on Feb 6, 2020 20:44:43 GMT
They merged the faction with the most limited access to channelling with the sub faction with no access to channelling
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Post by shmeep on Feb 6, 2020 21:46:23 GMT
They merged the faction with the most limited access to channelling with the sub faction with no access to channelling Can't believe PP still refuse to give trolls a single decent arc node. That alone shows that their design space is still stuck a good while behind everyone else's. Even Skorne got an incredible arc node with the Exalted CiD. Times change and power needs to keep creeping to push product, but it's dumb to leave an entire subsection of a faction in the dust. That being said, since Trolls are now ostensibly getting tech from Cygnar, who (used to be) one of the premier arc node factions, maybe the new theme will feature arc nodes. I doubt or at least hope they won't get a heavily cyngaran look and stick with the rugged, cobbled togethered look of CK and Thornfall, that'd be great. Maybe some kind of ramshackle tank that breaks apart as you channel through it, like the crucible guard light 'jack rather than rites of power, that could be thematically fitting for both sides and still be useful.
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Post by elricaltovilla on Feb 6, 2020 22:55:06 GMT
They merged the faction with the most limited access to channelling with the sub faction with no access to channelling Can't believe PP still refuse to give trolls a single decent arc node. That alone shows that their design space is still stuck a good while behind everyone else's. Even Skorne got an incredible arc node with the Exalted CiD. Times change and power needs to keep creeping to push product, but it's dumb to leave an entire subsection of a faction in the dust. That being said, since Trolls are now ostensibly getting tech from Cygnar, who (used to be) one of the premier arc node factions, maybe the new theme will feature arc nodes. I doubt or at least hope they won't get a heavily cyngaran look and stick with the rugged, cobbled togethered look of CK and Thornfall, that'd be great. Maybe some kind of ramshackle tank that breaks apart as you channel through it, like the crucible guard light 'jack rather than rites of power, that could be thematically fitting for both sides and still be useful. Why not just a light troll with an arcnode strapped to his back? Like some kind of big, glowing backpack.
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Post by shmeep on Feb 6, 2020 23:07:54 GMT
Can't believe PP still refuse to give trolls a single decent arc node. That alone shows that their design space is still stuck a good while behind everyone else's. Even Skorne got an incredible arc node with the Exalted CiD. Times change and power needs to keep creeping to push product, but it's dumb to leave an entire subsection of a faction in the dust. That being said, since Trolls are now ostensibly getting tech from Cygnar, who (used to be) one of the premier arc node factions, maybe the new theme will feature arc nodes. I doubt or at least hope they won't get a heavily cyngaran look and stick with the rugged, cobbled togethered look of CK and Thornfall, that'd be great. Maybe some kind of ramshackle tank that breaks apart as you channel through it, like the crucible guard light 'jack rather than rites of power, that could be thematically fitting for both sides and still be useful. Why not just a light troll with an arcnode strapped to his back? Like some kind of big, glowing backpack. Mainly because I'd prefer something that fits both factions, and preferably multiple themes. Giving each faction an arc node light would be fine too. Something like 4 months ago we discussed trolls needing an arc node, I would've liked it if Trolls had a beast akin to the Cyclops Shaman in look, but of course being an arc node rather than an animus bot.
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Post by Azahul on Feb 6, 2020 23:09:50 GMT
Can't believe PP still refuse to give trolls a single decent arc node. That alone shows that their design space is still stuck a good while behind everyone else's. Even Skorne got an incredible arc node with the Exalted CiD. Times change and power needs to keep creeping to push product, but it's dumb to leave an entire subsection of a faction in the dust. That being said, since Trolls are now ostensibly getting tech from Cygnar, who (used to be) one of the premier arc node factions, maybe the new theme will feature arc nodes. I doubt or at least hope they won't get a heavily cyngaran look and stick with the rugged, cobbled togethered look of CK and Thornfall, that'd be great. Maybe some kind of ramshackle tank that breaks apart as you channel through it, like the crucible guard light 'jack rather than rites of power, that could be thematically fitting for both sides and still be useful. I mean, let's be fair, Khador hasn't been given Arc Nodes either (Flame in the Darkness and Warriors of the Old Faith aside). Mercenary subfactions are mostly similarly limited. Both factions with very recent CIDs. Trolls and Farrow aren't being picked on in that respect.
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Post by shmeep on Feb 6, 2020 23:24:05 GMT
Can't believe PP still refuse to give trolls a single decent arc node. That alone shows that their design space is still stuck a good while behind everyone else's. Even Skorne got an incredible arc node with the Exalted CiD. Times change and power needs to keep creeping to push product, but it's dumb to leave an entire subsection of a faction in the dust. That being said, since Trolls are now ostensibly getting tech from Cygnar, who (used to be) one of the premier arc node factions, maybe the new theme will feature arc nodes. I doubt or at least hope they won't get a heavily cyngaran look and stick with the rugged, cobbled togethered look of CK and Thornfall, that'd be great. Maybe some kind of ramshackle tank that breaks apart as you channel through it, like the crucible guard light 'jack rather than rites of power, that could be thematically fitting for both sides and still be useful. I mean, let's be fair, Khador hasn't been given Arc Nodes either (Flame in the Darkness and Warriors of the Old Faith aside). Mercenary subfactions are mostly similarly limited. Both factions with very recent CIDs. Trolls and Farrow aren't being picked on in that respect. True, but Khador at least have arc node tricks on Zerkova and Old Witch. Do they even have spellslingers beyond those? Sorscha, sorta. It's more that TB have zero options beyond Mulg. Farrow have access to the bone shrine, which is decent for utility, at least. And the blind walker, but I have a hard time seeing anyone taking Mire for that.
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Post by Azahul on Feb 6, 2020 23:50:19 GMT
True, but Khador at least have arc node tricks on Zerkova and Old Witch. Do they even have spellslingers beyond those? Sorscha, sorta. It's more that TB have zero options beyond Mulg. Farrow have access to the bone shrine, which is decent for utility, at least. And the blind walker, but I have a hard time seeing anyone taking Mire for that. I'd put Mulg and the Bone Shrine as comparable, tops, seeing as both are really only freely available in one theme (Edit: from a pig perspective, anyway) and both are awkward to actually use offensively. You can't throw away Mulg, for example, and enemies literally have to walk into the Bone Shrine's spells given their static positioning. A Blindwalker on Mire straight up does nothing, since only battlegroup models can channel through it and Mire can only channel Weald Secrets... On the Khador side, I would say they're pretty comparable to Trolls in terms of how I think they would appreciate a model to channel through, and they have even less access to channelling. I've been watching Khador players ask for an arc node as long as I can remember. Sorscha1 and 3 would be the main beneficiaries, but Old Witch2 wouldn't hate getting to be further from the action and getting to choose a different alignment if she could. Getting myself distracted by the nitty gritty. My point is that channelling limitations are not really an unreasonable burden to put on a faction.
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Post by anoddman on Feb 7, 2020 16:53:05 GMT
Do people really find that they need an Arc Node in Trolls? I’ve never found myself in a position where I wished I had one. The only spell I really want to arc is Stranglehold, and Doomie’s got that covered.
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Post by robbleyourworld on Feb 7, 2020 17:10:45 GMT
calandra (could use a little help) and kolgrima (probably doesn't need help) would be helped immensely by an arcnode. Not to mention it would be real useful with grim2 or grissel1 (though that's not really what is limiting those two). with the release of led foot and tredz and boomhowler2 has really increased my ability to play calandra and has added some serious power to kolgrima (haven't tried grim2 or grissel1 in ages) so I'm not dying for an arcnode but some arcing tech might be nice.
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Post by Kevin on Feb 10, 2020 8:27:30 GMT
Dunno how the theme force gonna be constracted. But Carvel with troll models is gonna get stupid really, really fast
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