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Post by Soul Samurai on Dec 30, 2019 11:19:18 GMT
So I've not really been keeping up properly with new releases, so when I happened to glance at the "Steelhead Ironhead" (interesting naming convention...), it was the first time. ARM 18, 10 damage boxes, at SPD 5? That's bolshevik! Well, they do work for khador, so I guess I gotta grab a couple and paint them red. Or better yet kitbash them from MOW parts. Or just proxy my MOW Mechanic Officer as one, since he already has the clamp hand and all...
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Post by sand20go on Dec 30, 2019 16:50:57 GMT
He is a great model in Mercs. I mean like near mandatory in certain builds because of the way you can layer on threat extenders and get the alpha with a faction that LOVES getting the alpha. But with power lifter only friendly faction its value in khador is limited.
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Dec 30, 2019 18:56:25 GMT
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Post by Soul Samurai on Dec 30, 2019 18:56:25 GMT
I know, but he's not bad just as a mechanic, plus Mercs is my second faction.
Also something something SteelIronhead, Freebooter/Swabber, and three powder monkeys...
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Post by Armchair Warrior on Dec 30, 2019 19:35:51 GMT
He is a great model in Mercs. I mean like near mandatory in certain builds because of the way you can layer on threat extenders and get the alpha with a faction that LOVES getting the alpha. But with power lifter only friendly faction its value in khador is limited. Have we seen his card? He is probably going to be a partisan.Oh I guess he’s just the Ironhead... Here I was thinking there was some NEW spoiled MOW solo coming out in Riotquest.
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Post by sorokin on Dec 31, 2019 0:31:17 GMT
He is a great model in Mercs. I mean like near mandatory in certain builds because of the way you can layer on threat extenders and get the alpha with a faction that LOVES getting the alpha. But with power lifter only friendly faction its value in khador is limited. Have we seen his card? He is probably going to be a partisan. Uhm, yes. The Steelhead Iron head has been out quite a while now.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Dec 31, 2019 6:51:21 GMT
Have we seen his card? He is probably going to be a partisan. His card is in the PP card database. He does not seem to be a partisan, no, but he does work for most Warmachine factions and is Mechanically Adept. Probably a very good choice for a jackmarshal if you want to bring a Merc jack (I'm tempted to try a Swabber for the drag) because he's pretty damn tough for 4 points and brings a threat extension, plus he's a good mechanic (better than our Mechanic CA thanks to the higher SPD). Hmm, it never occurred to me before, but can a repairable mechanic repair themselves? I don't remember what the exact rules on targeting are, I know warcasters with battleplans can target themselves with their battleplans after all?
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Post by Soul Samurai on Dec 31, 2019 10:29:43 GMT
Look at this guy: Look at that chest piece, the thigh plates, the large central smokestack and heat grill; there's a lot of pretty clear MOW DNA in his design. Although obviously no self-respecting Khadoran mechanic would ever design something with such tiny shoulders! Hmmm, perhaps that's why he's SPD 5? Would our MOW suddenly gain a point of speed if they dropped their pauldrons? Oh, btw his Power Lifter rule is not limited to warjacks. There's a few Merc characters that wouldn't mind an extra 2" of movement; Alexia1 comes to mind.
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Post by P'tit Nico on Dec 31, 2019 13:27:09 GMT
If you really want a merc mechanic, take a look at Widget. SPD 7, Repo 3", Flight, Flying High, and she costs 1 point less.
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Dec 31, 2019 13:34:10 GMT
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Post by michael on Dec 31, 2019 13:34:10 GMT
...Would our MOW suddenly gain a point of speed if they dropped their pauldrons? ... Only if they lost the “Khador” tag.
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Post by jonnyboy on Dec 31, 2019 14:28:55 GMT
Soul, is there a way you could get the ironhead and alexia in the same list?
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Post by sorokin on Dec 31, 2019 17:00:25 GMT
Have we seen his card? He is probably going to be a partisan. His card is in the PP card database. He does not seem to be a partisan, no, but he does work for most Warmachine factions and is Mechanically Adept. Probably a very good choice for a jackmarshal if you want to bring a Merc jack (I'm tempted to try a Swabber for the drag) because he's pretty damn tough for 4 points and brings a threat extension, plus he's a good mechanic (better than our Mechanic CA thanks to the higher SPD). Hmm, it never occurred to me before, but can a repairable mechanic repair themselves? I don't remember what the exact rules on targeting are, I know warcasters with battleplans can target themselves with their battleplans after all? He is not a jack marhsal himself, so you'd have to brink one seperatly and you cant because that's two merc solos.
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Post by sorokin on Dec 31, 2019 17:02:07 GMT
Soul, is there a way you could get the ironhead and alexia in the same list? You can do so in any theme, because alexia1 is a unit and the ironhead is a solo. The question si wheather or not you should because then you cant bring any other merc solos, like Ragman, Hermit, Widget or Eiryss
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Post by Soul Samurai on Dec 31, 2019 18:30:52 GMT
If you really want a merc mechanic, take a look at Widget. SPD 7, Repo 3", Flight, Flying High, and she costs 1 point less. She's on my radar. I almost pulled the trigger on my last order, but I was already over-budget. Only if they lost the “Khador” tag. True dat. Which is a big part of my initial complaint: in theory Khador is slow but tough. But in MkII PP gave a bunch of other factions heavy infantry that were as tough or tougher AND ALSO faster than our MOW. Which seriously rubs me the wrong way. Now in early MkIII they rebalanced the heavy infantry so our MOW were tougher than most (poor Gators really got nerfed!), and that made sense to me. So if they want to make faster heavy infantry that's fine, and if they want to make tougher heavy infantry then I guess I can live with that as long as balance is maintained. But if they start churning out infantry that are faster AND tougher than MOW again (like Mr. Ironhead here), I will not be happy. He is not a jack marhsal himself, so you'd have to brink one seperatly and you cant because that's two merc solos. I'm looking at the downloaded card right now and he has the Jackmarshal icon in his stat bar. He does not have a Drive, perhaps that's why you thought he wasn't a Jackmarshal? I'm also looking at Boss MacHorn though, and that Drive: Dismantle is pretty tempting too. Increases the chance of pulling off a drag with a Swabber, which to be honest is the only real reason I can see to bring a Merc jack these days. Soul, is there a way you could get the ironhead and alexia in the same list? Like Sorokin said, Alexia 1 at least is a unit so some (all?) themes will allow her alongside the Stainlesshead. Now there is one other way, but it's a secret that very few people know about, so make sure you don't tell anyone else about this: you don't actually have to pick a theme when building your list!Heh, I jest, obviously only a crazy person would do that! Someone like that Soul Samurai guy maybe, I hear he's never once played a theme. Madness! Hell, that dude is so crazy he even talks about himself in the third person sometimes. What a weirdo, amirite?
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Post by sorokin on Dec 31, 2019 22:51:11 GMT
If you really want a merc mechanic, take a look at Widget. SPD 7, Repo 3", Flight, Flying High, and she costs 1 point less. She's on my radar. I almost pulled the trigger on my last order, but I was already over-budget. Only if they lost the “Khador” tag. True dat. Which is a big part of my initial complaint: in theory Khador is slow but tough. But in MkII PP gave a bunch of other factions heavy infantry that were as tough or tougher AND ALSO faster than our MOW. Which seriously rubs me the wrong way. Now in early MkIII they rebalanced the heavy infantry so our MOW were tougher than most (poor Gators really got nerfed!), and that made sense to me. So if they want to make faster heavy infantry that's fine, and if they want to make tougher heavy infantry then I guess I can live with that as long as balance is maintained. But if they start churning out infantry that are faster AND tougher than MOW again (like Mr. Ironhead here), I will not be happy. He is not a jack marhsal himself, so you'd have to brink one seperatly and you cant because that's two merc solos. I'm looking at the downloaded card right now and he has the Jackmarshal icon in his stat bar. He does not have a Drive, perhaps that's why you thought he wasn't a Jackmarshal? I'm also looking at Boss MacHorn though, and that Drive: Dismantle is pretty tempting too. Increases the chance of pulling off a drag with a Swabber, which to be honest is the only real reason I can see to bring a Merc jack these days. Soul, is there a way you could get the ironhead and alexia in the same list? Like Sorokin said, Alexia 1 at least is a unit so some (all?) themes will allow her alongside the Stainlesshead. Now there is one other way, but it's a secret that very few people know about, so make sure you don't tell anyone else about this: you don't actually have to pick a theme when building your list!Heh, I jest, obviously only a crazy person would do that! Someone like that Soul Samurai guy maybe, I hear he's never once played a theme. Madness! Hell, that dude is so crazy he even talks about himself in the third person sometimes. What a weirdo, amirite? I just double checked the cards again and you... are right... The ability is not on WU, so i never noticed and nobody every considered him as a jack marshal on the board (for obvious reasons, a marshal without a drive is trash). Eh, I guess that's one more reason to pay a close look to new releases, so i can edit the pages on WU myself and put all the abilities there. Someones gotta help that sites reputation. In regard to you MOW complaint: It's just one solo, not an entire unit. I think that's a bit different.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Jan 1, 2020 4:20:23 GMT
His drive is to move his warjack 2", which is really good, and what makes it even better is that it's not limited to just his warjack, which is REALLY good. The trade-off is that it's not as easy to apply to his jack as most drives are.
I agree that it's different for one solo than for a whole unit. Still, even our MOW solos are only ARM 16 and 8 boxes base. Even our large-based MOW solos are only ARM 17 base, and rely on shield for extra ARM. This guy has higher ARM and doesn't even have a shield on his model to justify the higher ARM (the way Shocktroopers and Errants do). And all that with an extra point of SPD too. It just kind of breaks my sense of how technology works in the Iron Kingdoms.
Hell, Boss MacHorn is ARM 17 with 10 boxes and she's not even bothering to cover up her torso! Has the power just crept?
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