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Post by Soul Samurai on Dec 29, 2019 10:59:57 GMT
Damn. Oh well.
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Post by sand20go on Dec 29, 2019 13:06:47 GMT
Don't think this is it, chief. You're only gonna be able to trample over so many models every turn, and unstable's blast is blast damage, not typeless. No point blowing up if it doesn't affect them. Ditto to rain of death. Except I am not sure what in flames has immunity to blast. Stryker 1 on feat definately is problematic to damage but not "immune". What are you thinking about in respect to blast immunity by one of the flames of darkness casters?
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Post by shmeep on Dec 29, 2019 13:41:28 GMT
Don't think this is it, chief. You're only gonna be able to trample over so many models every turn, and unstable's blast is blast damage, not typeless. No point blowing up if it doesn't affect them. Ditto to rain of death. Except I am not sure what in flames has immunity to blast. Stryker 1 on feat definately is problematic to damage but not "immune". What are you thinking about in respect to blast immunity by one of the flames of darkness casters? I saw rocketmen being mentioned. If we're talking about flames, then sure, it might work.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Dec 29, 2019 13:47:00 GMT
So this got me thinking: can you trample over small-based flying models?
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Post by shmeep on Dec 29, 2019 15:00:09 GMT
So this got me thinking: can you trample over small-based flying models? Nothing in the rules says otherwise, so sure. At least not when I looked in Primal yesterday to understand how tf tramples work.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Dec 29, 2019 15:40:33 GMT
Heh, I didn't think there was any reason why not, I just thought it was funny.
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Post by michael on Dec 30, 2019 1:15:55 GMT
Regarding B1 and Berserkers + Full Throttle: I suspect that trying to piece trade Berserkers for anything in that army is a huge mistake. Play it and see, etc., etc., but I think that probably has little to no legs on scenario and because of the aforementioned problems with Unstable reliability (it never works when you want) and being typed “blast damage”.
The proper answer for that list I faced is honestly probably Jaws of the Wolf or a jack-heavy Winter Guard list, or maybe even Armored Korps, but... eh, something.
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Post by gobber on Dec 30, 2019 3:04:36 GMT
Marauder definitely seems to be a worthwhile upgrade over the zerk here partly since a lot of the ash list is pow10's. Would prefer a caster that can help land the combo smite (thinking vlads/sorschas/OW2?) which isn't far off from oneshotting an archon if it lands, and should oneshot it if you can knock it into one of its archon buddies or other large base. If the archon survives the slam itself also has a decent chance of moving far enough to prevent your models from being affected by its aura while you attack its allies (especially if you have reach). Smooshing/knocking down any targets clustering behind it for its aura or shield guard is a nice bonus too.
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Post by Juris on Dec 30, 2019 21:58:05 GMT
snip...(Also the list had the full Rocketmen boat. Didn't need them, because he cleaned up something like 42 of my 50 Doom Reavers with the Gun Mages and Archons alone in 2 turns. It was bad and dumb.) ...snip
If you were playing a 42 Doom Reaver skew list (because 50 Doom Reavers isn't even possible at 75 points), then that's your first problem. You don't need a counter, so much as a list that isn't a bad skew list.
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Post by auraco on Dec 30, 2019 23:49:40 GMT
snip...(Also the list had the full Rocketmen boat. Didn't need them, because he cleaned up something like 42 of my 50 Doom Reavers with the Gun Mages and Archons alone in 2 turns. It was bad and dumb.) ...snip
If you were playing a 42 Doom Reaver skew list (because 50 Doom Reavers isn't even possible at 75 points), then that's your first problem. You don't need a counter, so much as a list that isn't a bad skew list. I agree with Juris here.
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Post by sand20go on Dec 31, 2019 16:46:26 GMT
If you were playing a 42 Doom Reaver skew list (because 50 Doom Reavers isn't even possible at 75 points), then that's your first problem. You don't need a counter, so much as a list that isn't a bad skew list. I agree with Juris here. Yeah - that isn't workable. I mean you could TRY it a few times but it just asks to be shot of the board.
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Post by michael on Dec 31, 2019 20:00:44 GMT
snip...(Also the list had the full Rocketmen boat. Didn't need them, because he cleaned up something like 42 of my 50 Doom Reavers with the Gun Mages and Archons alone in 2 turns. It was bad and dumb.) ...snip
If you were playing a 42 Doom Reaver skew list (because 50 Doom Reavers isn't even possible at 75 points), then that's your first problem. You don't need a counter, so much as a list that isn't a bad skew list. I meant "points" not "models." I was playing 5 units -- 50 points -- of Doom Reavers. Typing from a phone is dumb, and honestly, I didn't care enough to proofread it.
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