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Post by deathbymelancholy on Oct 29, 2019 11:42:56 GMT
October 29 is National Hermit Day in the US, so it only seems appropriate that we see if he's giving us any use.
I personally am not really finding him to be very appealing for my Trolls, which is disappointing. I really want to play my little King in Yellow model. But between Boom2, or Lanyssa, Mistspeaker, or even Alten in some conditions I'm just not finding him to be worth my oh so precious merc slot.
Anyone finding a place for him? Maybe with a Doomy, since I'm currently not in that crowd and have no idea?
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Post by Kevin on Oct 29, 2019 11:55:35 GMT
He can be put into the Kriel Company regardless of partisan minion shooting solos - demage buff with repo from boomi that can be placed by tank other then that dhunia archon is more or less better, cause it gives some value every turn. He also gives mark the target to boomi and tanks
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Post by jarrow on Oct 29, 2019 12:00:45 GMT
He can be put into the Kriel Company regardless of partisan minion shooting solos - demage buff with repo from boomi that can be placed by tank other then that dhunia archon is more or less better, cause it gives some value every turn. This! DMG buff that has total range of 15" is not bad. Grim2 also like telemetry to land Mortality and after throwing mortality mad visions is good backup protection. On other themes I think Dhunia, Boomhowler2 or Lanyssa are just better options.
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Post by Kevin on Oct 29, 2019 12:25:29 GMT
Same. Hermit I see only in KC. In every other theme force case I kinda dont see the point
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Post by Korianneder on Oct 29, 2019 13:21:12 GMT
He can be put into the Kriel Company regardless of partisan minion shooting solos - demage buff with repo from boomi that can be placed by tank other then that dhunia archon is more or less better, cause it gives some value every turn. He also gives mark the target to boomi and tanks How are you giving him repo from Boomhowler? Boomhowler gives friendly faction models repo 3. In a trollblood army he is a trollblood faction model, not a minion model. Hermit is a minion model not a trollblood model. Same issue with leadfoot.
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Post by moridamn on Oct 29, 2019 13:32:16 GMT
Hermit + madrak2 has been very fun for me. Nothing like grim salvation onto the hermit to ruin assassination attempts
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Post by jsjyme on Oct 29, 2019 13:54:32 GMT
He can be put into the Kriel Company regardless of partisan minion shooting solos - demage buff with repo from boomi that can be placed by tank other then that dhunia archon is more or less better, cause it gives some value every turn. He also gives mark the target to boomi and tanks How are you giving him repo from Boomhowler? Boomhowler gives friendly faction models repo 3. In a trollblood army he is a trollblood faction model, not a minion model. Hermit is a minion model not a trollblood model. Same issue with leadfoot. Boomhowler is a Mercenary Minion model, Partisan (Trollbloods) changes Boomhowler from a Mercenary model into a Trollbloods model but says nothing about Minion so in a Trollblood army Boomhowler is a Trollblood Minion model so can give reposition to Trollblood and Minion models. The Hermit is a Mercenary Minion model.
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Post by Korianneder on Oct 29, 2019 14:58:16 GMT
How are you giving him repo from Boomhowler? Boomhowler gives friendly faction models repo 3. In a trollblood army he is a trollblood faction model, not a minion model. Hermit is a minion model not a trollblood model. Same issue with leadfoot. Boomhowler is a Mercenary Minion model, Partisan (Trollbloods) changes Boomhowler from a Mercenary model into a Trollbloods model but says nothing about Minion so in a Trollblood army Boomhowler is a Trollblood Minion model so can give reposition to Trollblood and Minion models. The Hermit is a Mercenary Minion model. Yea that seems like an error more than intended. And for reference I'll point you to this topic privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?278876-Boomhowler-Solo-Artist-Partisan-Mark-Target which covers that issue and you can keep an eye on it. I would certainly not allow it at a tournament I was running. But if your opponents let you then more power to ya.
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Post by anoddman on Oct 29, 2019 16:23:12 GMT
Yeah, I would play it RAI instead of RAW in this case. Yes, that is what the rule says but better to play it without the bonus when so that you don't feel sad when it inevitably gets errataed.
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Post by Kevin on Oct 29, 2019 16:31:35 GMT
Kinda dont understand the point bout not allowing it at tournament. Unless its corrected by infernal on forum or by pp on card its works as its written. If we will be able to chose what rules we belive are written wrong thats gonna make a mess. Dont think its op, not gonna miss it if its gone, its just Im not a fan of choosing my own rules
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Post by anoddman on Oct 29, 2019 16:37:03 GMT
Kinda dont understand the point bout not allowing it at tournament. Unless its corrected by infernal on forum or by pp on card its works as its written. If we will be able to chose what rules we belive are written wrong thats gonna make a mess. That's a bad way to approach what is pretty clearly a typo. In that topic, Hutchuk was referenced as a model that has the correct wording "Mercenary or Minion model." That is very clearly the spirit of the rule. Insisting on playing it otherwise in a tournament citing the lack of Infernal clarification would be contrary to the rule as intended. By that logic, you could argue that the Primal Archon is not in fact a Friendly Faction model in Circle lists because its card says that it becomes "a Circle model instead of a Mercenary model" when it does not have the Mercenary tag. When your opponent points out that the Tactical Tip says that "Mercenary should refer to Minion" you could argue back that Privateer Press and Infernals have clarified in a number of places that Tactical Tips aren't rules. Do you see where it gets messy? Yes, it's PP's fault that the wording is bad here, but you would definitely be in the wrong for trying to gain a benefit from a typo.
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Post by robbleyourworld on Oct 29, 2019 18:17:21 GMT
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Post by anoddman on Oct 29, 2019 19:28:39 GMT
With that wording we're actually dealing with the same issue in reverse. Boomhowler2 falls into the second category Chuck mentioned, and is thus still in checeking.
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Post by mydnight on Oct 29, 2019 20:32:58 GMT
Put dhunian archon + hermit together. She can heal him, prevent damage to him, and make him more annoying that he already is.
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Post by Kevin on Oct 29, 2019 21:19:33 GMT
To do that ya would have to play in power of Dhunia, our worst theme xd but yes its possible After partisan rule change kinda dont see the point of running hermit. Not that he sucks; hes still op solo that should never pass like that through CiD, but trolls need other minions solos. Like Boomi2 - from my point of view best trollblood solo. Shame he is only in KC and in other cases takes minion slot.
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