gupp
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Post by gupp on Oct 20, 2019 18:31:51 GMT
Seems fairly quiet on the Cyrus’s front... anyone heard what’s new?
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Post by Korianneder on Oct 20, 2019 19:18:00 GMT
CID is possibly before the end if the year, but not guaranteed. Doug Hamilton is working on the new sculpts of which there are 4 or 5. Medium base infantry are being looked at by developers, so may be part of it. Hungerford hinted on the discord that Syntherion might be part of it as well. Oblivion releases finish up around January or February and new convergence models should be released spring of next year or so.
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Post by Gamingdevil on Oct 24, 2019 6:28:36 GMT
There were some spoilers in yesterday's Dev Hangout. Convergence is getting a new caster (not a new character, so either an epic or another character going warcaster), bunch of new models and some legacy changes, most notably on medium based infantry and some warjacks. More spoilers next week and CID will kick off on November 4.
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Post by Azahul on Oct 24, 2019 6:35:40 GMT
Also Gaspy4 as a Focus 5 Mercenary Journeyman working for (at least) and Partisan in Cryx and Convergence and able to mix and match Warjacks from all three factions. He is currently a 14 point Journeyman Warcaster Unit who spawns Annihilation Servitors with Dark Shroud and Murderous. And I think he might be on a large base? That much got spoiled.
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shmeep
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Post by shmeep on Oct 24, 2019 7:13:54 GMT
Also Gaspy4 as a Focus 5 Mercenary Journeyman working for (at least) and Partisan in Cryx and Convergence and able to mix and match Warjacks from all three factions. He is currently a 14 point Journeyman Warcaster Unit who spawns Annihilation Servitors with Dark Shroud and Murderous. And I think he might be on a large base? That much got spoiled. Almost took this at face value until you said he'll be 14 points.
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Post by beardmonk on Oct 24, 2019 7:41:30 GMT
Also Gaspy4 as a Focus 5 Mercenary Journeyman working for (at least) and Partisan in Cryx and Convergence and able to mix and match Warjacks from all three factions. He is currently a 14 point Journeyman Warcaster Unit who spawns Annihilation Servitors with Dark Shroud and Murderous. And I think he might be on a large base? That much got spoiled. Almost took this at face value until you said he'll be 14 points. Re-watched the stream on youtube this morning. The stream 100% said that he is 14 pts. Also he is the first in a new concept that PP is looking at so you may see other models in this "design space" in the future. Gaspy4 can take Cryx, merc and CoC jacks in his battle group. Large base. Is a murder murder machine by himself. So a Gaspy4 "pack" will be about a 22 pt investment as a minimum. All hail the Era of the Super Solos.
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Post by Azahul on Oct 24, 2019 8:08:59 GMT
Almost took this at face value until you said he'll be 14 points. I promise you I am not joking He's a Journeyman Warcaster Unit with a ton of stuff going on. 14 points is what they're currently testing him at.
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shmeep
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Post by shmeep on Oct 24, 2019 8:33:25 GMT
what the fugg DDDDDDD:
that sounds bonkers broken. and it doesn't even make sense in the lore! Gaspy was a blackclad before dying, and even if he gets reclaimed by cyriss as a lich, why would he be able to run non CoC jacks?
I don't know how I feel about this mini-warcaster concept. I think I prefer Journeymen being small investments rather than practically a second warcaster.
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Post by beardmonk on Oct 24, 2019 9:13:45 GMT
We will have to wait and see the actually CiD rules but he does seem very good. But. This very good package will take up 1/3 of your armies points so will be a powerful but possibly venerable lynchpin. So the power and flexibility is offset.
Outside of this, id rather that PP stopped all the faction hopping and faction blending. We are starting to get the 40K Soup lists that get complained about so much.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Oct 24, 2019 9:26:54 GMT
I don't understand. Convergence don't have warjack, they have vectors, which work differently: the concept of a warjack is against their religion isn't it? How can there be a journeyman running warjacks at all, much less both vectors and warjacks at the same time?
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Post by jojobrunnix on Oct 24, 2019 10:41:11 GMT
Anything goes because infernals *shrug*
I gues gaspy still knows how to operate jacks
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Post by borderprince on Oct 24, 2019 12:31:16 GMT
I don't understand. Convergence don't have warjack, they have vectors, which work differently: the concept of a warjack is against their religion isn't it? How can there be a journeyman running warjacks at all, much less both vectors and warjacks at the same time? You're right about the religion. That said, the Convergence already have one caster who can run warjacks (Locke), so jacks with a cortex are obviously anathema but not that anathema. It's probably all due to getting a convenient message from Cyriss, or just deciding to dispense with core components of a religion for The Great Good.
But I don't think anything has suggested mixing jacks/vectors when in different armies. The Partisan rule would mean he could only take vectors in Convergence (so no one else in the Convergence gets tainted with these thinking machines wandering around) and Cryx jacks in Cryx, then merc jacks when fielded in merc armies (or as a merc in other armies, if that is permitted).
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Post by Azahul on Oct 24, 2019 12:47:12 GMT
Actually, I think they did suggest that he'd be able to take Merc or Cryx 'jacks in a Convergence army, and vice versa. But yes, Locke has already demonstrated that some Convergence Warcasters can go around running regular Warjacks if they have to.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Oct 24, 2019 13:11:44 GMT
But I don't think anything has suggested mixing jacks/vectors when in different armies. The Partisan rule would mean he could only take vectors in Convergence (so no one else in the Convergence gets tainted with these thinking machines wandering around) and Cryx jacks in Cryx, then merc jacks when fielded in merc armies (or as a merc in other armies, if that is permitted). Also Gaspy4 as a Focus 5 Mercenary Journeyman working for (at least) and Partisan in Cryx and Convergence and able to mix and match Warjacks from all three factions. Gaspy4 can take Cryx, merc and CoC jacks in his battle group. My interpretation of these comments was that he could take both warjacks and vectors at the same time? Doesn't Locke only run actual warjacks while playing in GC, not in Convergence? That's a little bit different; I guess it does establish that it's not forbidden, but it still seems strange to actually run jacks IN convergence. Oh well, fluff is fluff: it changes over time to suit the needs of the game.
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Post by Charistoph on Oct 24, 2019 14:33:37 GMT
But I don't think anything has suggested mixing jacks/vectors when in different armies. The Partisan rule would mean he could only take vectors in Convergence (so no one else in the Convergence gets tainted with these thinking machines wandering around) and Cryx jacks in Cryx, then merc jacks when fielded in merc armies (or as a merc in other armies, if that is permitted).
You are correct on the Partisan rule, but we've seen a lot of characters have other rules that go beyond that, such as the Underchief Mire. The rule to consider is the "Limited Battlegroup" which would make those adjustments one way or the other.
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