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Post by mandra on Oct 6, 2019 19:10:09 GMT
Hi, my "meta" with friends is super competitive apparently, orboros, skorne, cryx and convergence are the main army and my first games I get rekt, can't take the objectives/flags in time in scenario game, can't hold it and I take a lot of charges..so I come up with this list, hoping to have the chance to crush some skulls..tips?
Trollbloods
[Theme] Band of Heroes
[Grim 1] Grim Angus [+29]
- Dire Troll Mauler [15]
- Earthborn Dire Troll [14]
- Earthborn Dire Troll [14]
- Trollkin Runebearer [0(5)]
Stone Scribe Chronicler [0(4)]
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6]
- Stone Scribe Elder [3]
Trollkin Champions (max) [16]
- Skaldi Bonehammer [0(5)]
Trollkin Champions (max) [16]
Trollkin Long Riders (max) [20]
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Post by Trollock on Oct 7, 2019 0:25:59 GMT
Champions are good on paper but they are bad against the things that are good in the meta right now. Not only that but they are also screwed over by things like mortality that gets played a lot now cause it is good against tharn and immortals etc.
If the meta cycles to being all heavies again, and mortality gets played less, then it is time to play double champions again (maybe...)
Until then, it is one unit tops. Fast stuff like fennblades should take priority till then imo.
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Post by mydnight on Oct 7, 2019 3:28:41 GMT
Grim also doesn't seem that great for an all-melee list. He's basically a walking feat with a gun. Sure he works, because his feat is awesome sauce, but it seems to me that Grim prefers combined arms. Also Madrak1/Kolgrimma seems better for such a list.
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Post by allinontrolls on Oct 7, 2019 9:42:36 GMT
I played some games this weekend tested eborka and i unterstand why Nobody plays him at the wtc. Szenario is to spread out so u need casters with a big control zone like kolgrima doomys or calandra.
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Post by mandra on Oct 7, 2019 11:01:54 GMT
Thank you guys!Think I'll go for kolgrima than, out one unit of champ, in fennblades. I played some games this weekend tested eborka and i unterstand why Nobody plays him at the wtc. Szenario is to spread out so u need casters with a big control zone like kolgrima doomys or calandra.
Solid list with doomys?
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Post by allinontrolls on Oct 7, 2019 12:21:36 GMT
A doomy3 was quiet sucessful AT the wtc and a doomy2 List in sotn combining rok and bears could Be really interesting.
War Room Army
Trollblood - New Army
Theme: Storm of the North
73 / 75 Army
Hoarluk Doomshaper, Rage of Dhunia - WB: +27
- Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 0
- Dire Troll Mauler - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 15)
- Earthborn Dire Troll - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 12)
- Rök - PC: 19
- Mulg the Ancient - PC: 22
- Troll Axer - PC: 10
Troll Whelps - 5 Whelps: 0
Lanyssa Ryssyl, Nyss Sorceress - PC: 4
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 3 Grunts: 6
- Stone Scribe Elder - PC: 0
Northkin Bear Handler & Battle Bears - Bear Handler & 2 Battle Bears: 10
THEME: Storm of the North
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GENERATED : 10/07/2019 14:21:25
BUILD ID : 2089.19-07-18
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Post by robbleyourworld on Oct 7, 2019 20:53:45 GMT
Double max champs seems a bit much imo. Also I personally think max long riders is unnecessary, I usually opt for a min and horthol.
Might drop an earthborn and unit of champions to fit in a unit of fennblades and a bouncer maybe?
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Post by mandra on Oct 8, 2019 14:42:45 GMT
Double max champs seems a bit much imo. Also I personally think max long riders is unnecessary, I usually opt for a min and horthol. Might drop an earthborn and unit of champions to fit in a unit of fennblades and a bouncer maybe?
I wanted to go for champs because I tested fennblades a bit and seemed to be to squishy and not great damage for me, I'll try them again!
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Post by robbleyourworld on Oct 8, 2019 16:40:13 GMT
Double max champs seems a bit much imo. Also I personally think max long riders is unnecessary, I usually opt for a min and horthol. Might drop an earthborn and unit of champions to fit in a unit of fennblades and a bouncer maybe?
I wanted to go for champs because I tested fennblades a bit and seemed to be to squishy and not great damage for me, I'll try them again!
Fennblades aren't going to do a ton of damage and they'll die easily but they're really there to give you good odds at getting a decent alpha and screening your champs and beasts. They don't hit particularly hard but multiple boosted pow 12-13's will put substantial hurt into heavies. Them + the fell caller means they can really threaten high def (14-15) infantry and they hit hard enough that even iron zealed sentinels need to be careful. Look at them as a good initial punch which allows you to set up a second hard hit from the champions and/or the longriders. Try charging them in repoing some forward and some back for an attempted second punch and a more efficient screen. From my experience they need to be with the UA or they're really overpriced. |
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Post by moridamn on Oct 8, 2019 19:05:32 GMT
I've been using this list. It's performance has been okay in my local meta, though I will note that we don't have a skorne player, so untested in that respect. I attempt to flood center with lots of dudes since with madrak2 plus stone, any of my kriel can suddenly become mat 8 pow 12 weapon masters. Warpath gives my bomber a 20" assassination threat or a great repositioning tool to get to safety after throwing some boosted bombs.
War Room Army
Trollblood - New Army
Theme: Storm of the North
75 / 75 Army
Madrak Ironhide, World Ender - WB: +28
- Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 0
- Dire Troll Bomber - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 19)
- Troll Bouncer - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 9)
Hearthgut Hooch Hauler - PC: 18
Fell Caller Hero - PC: 0
Fell Caller Hero - PC: 0
Hermit of Henge Hold - PC: 5
Kriel Warriors - Leader & 9 Grunts: 11
Kriel Warriors - Leader & 9 Grunts: 11
Kriel Warriors - Leader & 9 Grunts: 11
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 3 Grunts: 6
- Northkin Elder - PC: 3
Northkin Bear Handler & Battle Bears - Bear Handler & 2 Battle Bears: 10
THEME: Storm of the North
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GENERATED : 10/08/2019 15:01:28
BUILD ID : 2089.19-07-18
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sorokin
Junior Strategist
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Post by sorokin on Oct 9, 2019 12:52:26 GMT
Champions are good on paper but they are baeI mean, if that floats your boat, man, I ain't stoppin you. |
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Post by Trollock on Oct 10, 2019 6:27:03 GMT
Champions are good on paper but they are baeI mean, if that floats your boat, man, I ain't stoppin you. hehe. corrected the spelling. its supposed to be "bad"  |
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sorokin
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Post by sorokin on Oct 10, 2019 8:41:06 GMT
I mean, if that floats your boat, man, I ain't stoppin you. hehe. corrected the spelling. its supposed to be "bad" That's what I would have said to cover all this up too.  |
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Post by allinontrolls on Oct 10, 2019 8:49:07 GMT
I switched my champs for long riders and i quiet like them.
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