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Post by badnappy on Sept 29, 2019 11:18:18 GMT
So I am having trouble with harbinger and exemplar theme,skorne immortals so was thinking Band of Heroes for take down will help against both. I have two units of champs and think they are probably core though I could drip to one unit for the right reasons. Would also like to include some longriders. My dilemma is which caster. Obviously Madrak1 but also trying to think outside the box so looking at Grissel1 because of infantry support, or Grimm1 because of a good feat. Even considered Madrak3 for secong aura. Ideas and suggestions welcome.
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snoozer
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Post by snoozer on Sept 30, 2019 9:44:25 GMT
I think you can play a lot of casters in BoH, inlcuding Kolgrima or Grissel 2 also. Jarl is nice with Long Riders. Harbinger tough: The theme will only help you against tough. Harbys ability triggers at disabled, the removed from play triggers on Boxed, so it will only trigger if she does not Martyr the models disabled!
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Post by allinontrolls on Sept 30, 2019 10:27:12 GMT
in my opinion harby is a matchup you should not tech for as a Troll Player. You could try Kolgrima and spray her to death if she is not careful but otherwise it should be a tough matchup. You need gw and trolls lack on gw. For BoH caster you could play any infantry caster. BoH always helps Long Riders cause take down on impact attacks is quiet nice.
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Post by deathbymelancholy on Sept 30, 2019 11:18:17 GMT
I built my Jarl list in SotN specifically to play into Harby. It was rough going for a few games but now that I've worked at it I'm happy. It's never going to be an easy game. Harbinger, and Menoth, is in a premier spot right now. Play smart, grind her out, always threaten the caster. I threaten three magic bullets into her at all times, a good Grissel2 list might do similar, but shield guards are more effective without magic bullet to lean on.
I echo the sentiment that BoH is not really where you want to be going into Harby just because of the timing of disabled/boxed mitigating our RFP. But, if you could keep her back and sandpaper the army down there might be something there. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post by badnappy on Sept 30, 2019 23:15:19 GMT
Thanks for the input, band will ar least help against immortal spam.
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Post by robbleyourworld on Oct 1, 2019 12:56:40 GMT
I play kolgrima in BoH as my Menoth drop. It gives me a game against harbinger if I play it right but is better into other menoth drops than what I've tried when I tech for harby. I'm curious to see how jarl SotN does against her following the comment from deathbymelancholy . I could see it working if you appropriately spread out and consistently threaten harbinger with pow 12's.
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Post by mandra on Oct 4, 2019 12:49:02 GMT
I built my Jarl list in SotN specifically to play into Harby. It was rough going for a few games but now that I've worked at it I'm happy. It's never going to be an easy game.
Could you please share your list?
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Post by robbleyourworld on Oct 4, 2019 16:08:13 GMT
If I were to toss one together it might look a bit like this conflictchamber.com/?c7201b_-280g0riUjq6GjS6Tj20li-iZiZj4cC6lTrollbloods [Theme] Storm of the North [Skuld 1] Jarl Skuld, Devil of the Thornwood [+30] - Dire Troll Bomber [19] - Rök [19] - Trollkin Runebearer [0(5)] Fell Caller Hero [0(5)] Gatorman Husk [3] Horthol, Long Rider Hero [8] Valka Curseborn, Chieftain of the North [0(6)] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (max) [9] - Northkin Elder [3] Northkin Bear Handlers & Battle Bears [10] Northkin Bear Handlers & Battle Bears [10] Northkin Raiders (min) [9] - Trollkin Sorcerer (1) [3] Trollkin Long Riders (min) [12]
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