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Post by michael on Aug 13, 2019 0:43:00 GMT
....this forum, I swear.
Or maybe the Oblivion letter was meant to convey "Hey, we're wrapping up the first 20 years of plot and starting a new chapter. So chill, and hang on for the ride!"
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Post by Havock on Aug 13, 2019 1:20:58 GMT
Well, I am kinda curious if they intend to go the 40k route and just ever-more-slowly trudge forward in time (ie. the 40k approach until they broke through that part) or just wrap up the storyline and basically go "the IK is basically this setting in this timeframe".
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Post by Miafan on Aug 13, 2019 4:18:04 GMT
Oh my... I guess it's time to sell some unpacked models.
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Post by fanbloodytastic on Aug 13, 2019 5:13:53 GMT
If you are enjoying the game just keep playing and see what comes next. They already announced further releases are coming during the Lock and Load keynote.
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Post by Miafan on Aug 13, 2019 6:17:44 GMT
If you are enjoying the game just keep playing and see what comes next. They already announced further releases are coming during the Lock and Load keynote. Enjoying would be pulling it, but no way I get rid of my collection, and it's enough for playing. But I feel that with such signs and portents it's better to get rid of "i'll do it later" hoard, so when/if disaster strikes one would not be left with a small mountain of unmarkatable stock.
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Post by Havock on Aug 13, 2019 7:53:29 GMT
If PP ditches WM/H they cease to exist, stop the fearmongering.
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Post by cain on Aug 13, 2019 11:00:12 GMT
I don`t quite see the fuzz over this letter. Seems more like a "this chapter of the fluff is over - now we are starting a new chapter"-statement.
PP is not axing warmahordes anytime soon. There are however clear signs that they are using more resources on developing new side games/the new warcaster game. And a little less resources on warmahordes. Sounds reasonable for business, and we want a healthy PP.
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Post by michael on Aug 13, 2019 13:06:00 GMT
I don`t quite see the fuzz over this letter. Seems more like a "this chapter of the fluff is over - now we are starting a new chapter"-statement. PP is not axing warmahordes anytime soon. There are however clear signs that they are using more resources on developing new side games/the new warcaster game. And a little less resources on warmahordes. Sounds reasonable for business, and we want a healthy PP. There’s no pleasing these people, dude. “We demand that PP changes with the times! ... Oh no PP changed something, doom Doooooom!” “PP isn’t following the latest trend, they refuse to change, PP is dooooomed!” There, I have caught everyone up on about 60% of all posts.
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Post by Ganso on Aug 13, 2019 18:34:23 GMT
I for one hope this foreshadows a Scorched Earth approach that reboots the game with a streamlined miniature line and clear faction identities :-P
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Post by jisidro on Aug 14, 2019 9:32:41 GMT
OK, seems this infernal thing IS a critical thing in the setting... Who knew?
Anyone know where I can get the backstory on this deal that was made for the souls of "humanity"?
(BTW seems like there is an enviromental streak somewhere inside PP. A debt to be paid in the future by inexorable forces sounds a lot like an enviromentals tory.)
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Post by bacon on Aug 14, 2019 12:17:34 GMT
The oblivion book itself has the most detailed description of the deal itself. To by knowledge every time it was mentioned before this it was left ambiguous on how exactly she brokered arcane magic for humans.
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Post by michael on Aug 14, 2019 12:19:39 GMT
OK, seems this infernal thing IS a critical thing in the setting... Who knew? Anyone know where I can get the backstory on this deal that was made for the souls of "humanity"? (BTW seems like there is an enviromental streak somewhere inside PP. A debt to be paid in the future by inexorable forces sounds a lot like an enviromentals tory.) This has been laid here and there across a bunch of products. Infernals appeared in the old D&D 3.5 Monsternomicon 1 and the mysterious and abrupt rise of the gift of magic has been referenced a lot in the RPG and also in the WM materials often.
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Post by Charistoph on Aug 14, 2019 14:47:26 GMT
(BTW seems like there is an environmental streak somewhere inside PP. A debt to be paid in the future by inexorable forces sounds a lot like an environmental story.) Sorry, but that is so common and such an old story concept, it should be considered a trope. The phrase, "The Devil gets his due," is far older than the environmentalist movement, after all. Indeed, a lot of the old morality stories from old times carry an equivalent message. If anything, the Wyrm destroying the planet, instead of Infernals devastating humanity, would be more in keeping with the environmentalist track.
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Post by jagius021 on Aug 14, 2019 15:16:34 GMT
Oh my... I guess it's time to sell some unpacked models. Holy drama-filled-empanadas Batman! Someone's life has got to be real mundane to have this sort of reactivity.
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Post by Hashmal on Aug 14, 2019 16:17:43 GMT
Or maybe the Oblivion letter was meant to convey "Hey, we're wrapping up the first 20 years of plot and starting a new chapter. So chill, and hang on for the ride!" Exactly how I read it. It makes sense: this isn't an expansion where they introduce another faction who has a spotlight moment then back to Khador and Cygnar pawing at each other while Cryx twirls its moustache, Protectorate protectorates, and all of the Hordes factions gain and lose ground in some weird version of parity. This expansion is a dramatic tonal shift for the game's fiction overall and whatever comes next will not be as it has been before. I think you have to read between the lines pretty liberally to translate a send-off to a setting that previously existed into a send-off to the game system as a whole.
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