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Post by mydnight on Jul 24, 2019 21:47:54 GMT
It can now be played as a super solo theme.
Fiona doesn't really care about the number of units you bring as a long as it includes Croes (Croes gained Prey btw).
With all the character solos coming from Riot Quest it will have a longevity.
Also now all the lesser warlocks are legit inclusions for irregulars. Damiano can play Wrongeye and Snapjaw, with nyss/kayazy.
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zhoe
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Post by zhoe on Jul 24, 2019 22:54:11 GMT
anybody who wanna to play balthassar bamfist on crows cutthroats or kayassy for teh farc3 barrier should take this
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sorokin
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Post by sorokin on Jul 25, 2019 7:23:39 GMT
OOOOOFF that Irregs spoiler... In all seriousness, how many have been playing Irregulars as a unit-based Theme?
I only consider it because most of my units could only play in Irregulars anyway (Nyss Hunters and 3 units of Kayazy). But I still have enough Jacks to still play it as a Jack Theme. As it is, Soldiers and Kingmakers I'd have to play as half-Jack right now because I only own 3 Steelhead units. I'd still want to get another unit of Halberdiers, an Arcanist, a Gunner, and a couple Gun Crews before I'd consider any full Steelhead build.
It's moreso that fact that it's no longer a generic jack theme. So the only appeal are a set of very specific selection of units and solos. That being said, my initial reaction aside, Fiona Super Friends does sound kinda fun. As does shoe's suggestion of a Rahera gunline, and I guess Ossrum will still use the theme to bring gunbunnies and smol units. Gorten will dearly miss his no-kd tough pirates though.
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Post by Charistoph on Jul 25, 2019 10:18:33 GMT
In all seriousness, how many have been playing Irregulars as a unit-based Theme?
I only consider it because most of my units could only play in Irregulars anyway (Nyss Hunters and 3 units of Kayazy). But I still have enough Jacks to still play it as a Jack Theme. As it is, Soldiers and Kingmakers I'd have to play as half-Jack right now because I only own 3 Steelhead units. I'd still want to get another unit of Halberdiers, an Arcanist, a Gunner, and a couple Gun Crews before I'd consider any full Steelhead build.
It's moreso that fact that it's no longer a generic jack theme. So the only appeal are a set of very specific selection of units and solos. To be fair, it was never a generic 'jack theme, or if it was, it was the most bare bones one in the game. Since any Theme can be played 'jack or 'beast heavy without significant punishment once Requisition takes hold (outside of not being able to take advantage of specific rules over a spam or a proper Battlegroup Controller, of course), this was rather to be expected.
If anything, it's only really lost the Steelhead and Rhulic options in terms of list building. It's allowed to be more of a Jack Marshal Theme than it was before because doing that doesn't hamstring you like it used to. So it goes from being the most bare bones 'Jack Theme, to being able to embrace it's peculiarity and the oddities of a Mercenary style of bringing a lot of 'jacks through all of our solos.
At least you're really not LOSING more out of this Theme change than can be expected when it comes to building the list (almost all the Advance Moves were going to be lost anyway). Even to take advantage of most of the 'jacks abilities in the old Theme setup, you still needed to be taking units, and that can take up slots for your 'jacks anyway.
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sorokin
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Post by sorokin on Jul 26, 2019 15:40:56 GMT
I have to say I like the idea of a super friends list more and more. Fiona looks like the right caster for it. Does anyone know if you can have her channel through Rorsch and have the damage transferred to Brine?
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Post by Charistoph on Jul 26, 2019 21:10:38 GMT
I have to say I like the idea of a super friends list more and more. Fiona looks like the right caster for it. Does anyone know if you can have her channel through Rorsch and have the damage transferred to Brine? It doesn't look like transferring damage has any source or time-based requirements on them, but I could be wrong.
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