The main issue with Forges is that it only includes the Shyeel jacks, which means it lacks access to many of our best and most useful jacks. If you could take Banshees, Sphinxes, Harpies and Sirens you would have much better access to the tools needed in many matchups.
Post by shadowsword751 on Apr 27, 2019 9:08:39 GMT
The other thing to consider, that unlike Heavy Metal, Jaws of the Wolf, and Black Industries, Forges of War does not benefit you for taking specifically myrmidons. It is intended to focus on House Shyeel and what those models do well, which is as usually battlefield manipulation and control not shoving a block of machines into your opponent.
So it pales in comparison to jack themes because it really a jack theme? That sorta makes sense to me.
Now, how do I build a decent FoW list then?
If jack marshalls are the order of the day, Helynna and Vyros 1 and 2 seem less interesting. Rahn for maximum movement jank? Thyron for melee? Kaelyssa for stealth/anti stealth? Elara2 or Issyria for debuff/buff? Vyros1 with melee jacks, and a jack marshalls with shooty jacks?
Retribution Army - 50 / 50 points [Theme] Forges of War
[Ravyn 1] Ravyn, the Eternal Light [+28] - Phoenix  - Phoenix  Arcanist Mechanik  Arcanist Mechanik  House Shyeel Artificer  - Hydra  House Shyeel Artificer  - Hydra  House Shyeel Arcanists [0(7)] House Shyeel Arcanists [0(7)]
This list optimizes the threat of Hydras gun. As well as a second line melee beat stick.
Hydra has focys battery never drops focus. Its gun becomes a base rng 15 pow 15 at 3 focus. It can reach rat 9 through jack martialing, or pow 17 damage on the gun. With crush and concentrated power it can reach p+s 19 melee damage base. Can be sniped for a 19 inch gun.
Phoenix can then be fueld by the artificer unit each turn and is both a good infantry counter, can strike deep with ravyns spells and use her pathfinder potentially rocketing in for a 14 inch melee threat or a walking 23 inch (sniped) gun.
Retribution Army - 49 / 50 points [Theme] Forges of War
[Vyros 2] Vyros, Incissar of the Dawnguard [+27] - Griffon  - Griffon  - Imperatus  Arcanist Mechanik  House Shyeel Artificer  - Manticore  House Shyeel Artificer  - Manticore  House Shyeel Arcanists [0(7)] House Shyeel Arcanists [0(7)]
This list takes advantage of the deceleration bonus while having manticores for anyi infantry rolls. Playing close to vyros 2 the jack martialed manticores make great sheild guards and can place out d3 pow 14 shots, covering fire, or used a a non symergy melee of p+s 22.
Vyros can then make his griphons and imperitous more effective as the resourse drain to him in minimized.
Easy rider can still give the manticore pathfinder as well. Just remember the crushed, concentrated power, force generated manticore is a p+s 22 and can get to position due to vyros 2 feat.
There are countless options really a aspis martialed can regen a d6 feild plus a d3 each turn and has beat back melee. Good for a cheap 6 pt control piece
There's a guy on youtube that does really indepth battle reports for his retribution lists that's I'm shamelessly going to plug here. As a practical newbie I really appreciate his indepth turn breakdowns and the lists might give you some ideas.
1. My first list is Kaelyssa in DoI with lots of shooting. I think it covers stealth and has assasination potential against jack spam. 2. I just want to field lots of jacks, but I probably need something that can crack Khador armour and eat MoW units.
In my tiny local meta we're just starting to play a 50pts 2 list format.
I'm facing at the following lists/casters: Gravediggers with Haley3 or Siege1 Tanky/shooty Heavy Metal with Stryker1 (Caine0 + Ace) AC with Sorsha3 or Irusk2 Jaws of the Wolf with Strakhov2 Storm Division with Nemo3
I'm facing a stealth Behemoth, all the lightning, trencher clouds, ARM 21+ Cygnar jacks and tons of MoW but no real infantry spam, although one of the Khador players is talking about Wolves of Winter, so I might see some Doomnreavers in the near future.
I like the Ravyn list, but I cant help thinking that she'd be better off in DoI with a arcantrik force generator?