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Post by robobengt on Apr 24, 2019 6:47:34 GMT
She's also super boring to play.In PoD if possible I could consider taking 2 + the Hermit and a bunch of whelps to autoheal beasts when whelps die. Also, three "no damage rolls" in one turn might almost be worth it. But probably not. Too many points go lost.
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Post by mydnight on Apr 24, 2019 9:16:58 GMT
I guess healing your gargantuan with the whelp trick will be hilarious. She fits better into SoTN and BoH. Saving that bear, longrider or champ or even fire eater is nice, and champs can absorb damage and then benefit from healing when raiders/warriors die. Also protects the bear handler, krielstone. Also saving valka is pretty funny since he is annoying when up in your opponent's face counter charging, retaliating and vengeancing.
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Post by snoozer on Apr 24, 2019 9:50:02 GMT
She's also super boring to play.In PoD if possible I could consider taking 2 + the Hermit and a bunch of whelps to autoheal beasts when whelps die. Also, three "no damage rolls" in one turn might almost be worth it. But probably not. Too many points go lost. I think you ard limited to one anyways, as they are minions right? I think partisan does not bypass this.
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Post by jarrow on Apr 24, 2019 9:56:41 GMT
She's also super boring to play.In PoD if possible I could consider taking 2 + the Hermit and a bunch of whelps to autoheal beasts when whelps die. Also, three "no damage rolls" in one turn might almost be worth it. But probably not. Too many points go lost. I think you ard limited to one anyways, as they are minions right? I think partisan does not bypass this. Dhunia Archon is included to PoD theme in week1 errata-post (but is not listed on pdf's) so you can take 2 to PoD list. On other themes it takes Minion slot.
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Post by mydnight on Apr 24, 2019 11:00:57 GMT
I think you ard limited to one anyways, as they are minions right? I think partisan does not bypass this. Dhunia Archon is included to PoD theme in week1 errata-post (but is not listed on pdf's) so you can take 2 to PoD list. On other themes it takes Minion slot. It's probably our theme that is least likely to benefit from 2 Dhunian Archons Is PP trolling us?
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Post by jarrow on Apr 24, 2019 12:13:02 GMT
I don't say so. They combo good with mountain king (and whelps general) and keeping those few solos alive is important. Serenity is also nice bonus. Kriel company is theme I don't see them played.
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Post by deathbymelancholy on Apr 24, 2019 12:37:12 GMT
Is there a scenario where she replaces enough of the Stone's utility to free up their points? Maybe with Madrak3, although i'm not a big fan for other reasons there. but if she could take up some of their support and free up the nine points for work models? I dunno, she's not my jam, and I'm not in the "awesome model" boat either, so I'm just spitballing.
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Post by elricaltovilla on Apr 24, 2019 13:07:54 GMT
Well the changes are an improvement, but I still can't see myself putting her in any of my lists. She doesn't fix any of the problems that trolls have and I don't want to waste a slot on more support when what I need is more face smashing.
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Post by snoozer on Apr 26, 2019 6:47:09 GMT
You would get 1 for free and it might be better than lanyssa as a third pick after runebearer and whelps in any way.
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Post by jarrow on Apr 26, 2019 7:29:15 GMT
Just played her yeasterday and I think she is quite good balanced now. Point cost could be lift back to 7p, but it's irrelevant as long as its at least 5p. Healing models form killed ones is super handy tool, but not broken as enemy can control it and often you have nothing to heal. Quite same as playing against menoth immortal solos or grymkin sacrifice arcana. Righteous fury makes her really tough (arm21) and she can actually beat quite good as all troll support.
In PoD I would see at least one in every list, as she is just better than Janissa or shaman. Second is harder to take cos you have to have 4 spare points for whelps. In SotN he will duel against Valka (and Lanyssa) and they do very different role. Not auto-include, but good candidate. Same in BoH. And for KC you wont take her as there is no multi-wound infantry.
And to elricaltovilla: you get more face smashing if you can ensure one more dude to survive to battle.
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Post by mydnight on Apr 26, 2019 7:38:34 GMT
Just played her yeasterday and I think she is quite good balanced now. Point cost could be lift back to 7p, but it's irrelevant as long as its at least 5p. Healing models form killed ones is super handy tool, but not broken as enemy can control it and often you have nothing to heal. Quite same as playing against menoth immortal solos or grymkin sacrifice arcana. Righteous fury makes her really tough (arm21) and she can actually beat quite good as all troll support. In PoD I would see at least one in every list, as she is just better than Janissa or shaman. Second is harder to take cos you have to have 4 spare points for whelps. In SotN he will duel against Valka (and Lanyssa) and they do very different role. Not auto-include, but good candidate. Same in BoH. And for KC you wont take her as there is no multi-wound infantry. And to elricaltovilla: you get more face smashing if you can ensure one more dude to survive to battle. She will compete with the Mad hermit for the minion slot. Presumably armor debuffs are still valuable to us, and can even justify not bringing a Mauler. In PoD you can bring both, and she can protect the hermit.
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Post by bundeez on Apr 27, 2019 11:05:54 GMT
Care to expand on your game jarrow? (your list, opponents list, etc.) Doesn't sound like it had any big impact on the game. I'm baffled she's only included in PoD.. might make sense if they fix the theme, but for now I can't imagine spending points for her. More support to help beasts is a welcome change, just not serenity. The theme already has it, Condition is what Trollblood needs imo. Fingers crossed for week 3 super buff! x)
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Post by Kevin on Apr 27, 2019 12:46:33 GMT
CiD ends 29.04
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Post by bundeez on Apr 27, 2019 12:49:18 GMT
Fack
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Post by sorokin on Apr 27, 2019 13:45:21 GMT
Well there's always hoping models get buffed upon final release.
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