sorokin
Junior Strategist
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Post by sorokin on Apr 24, 2019 12:39:49 GMT
Greylord likely won't get the thamarite tag, because not all Greylords are thamarites. There are thamarite cabals among htem, and they are somewhat accepted (Zerk was part of one of them) but it's definetly a minority as opposed to run of the mill Menites and Morrowans among them.
I thought Alexia was a thamarite as well, but upon looking at her backstory it seems like she isn't. She's just crazy. That is because she unwillingly became the host of the souls within the Witchfire. Her backstoryx makes no mention of her religios affiliation at all actually.
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Post by auraco on Apr 24, 2019 13:00:13 GMT
I think the theme is viable but you need to take some of the morrowan stuff, restricting yourself to just the thamarite theme and then saying it's not viable is not exactly a fair thing to say.
I do agree that Zerkova2 is useless in this theme, she does get vengeace from the theme, if you really want to go full retard... But with how it is, if we get a Zerkova3 one day, she'll probably be able to play in this theme too.
I do like the theme so far and with the change to the morrowan archon I could see it perform very well in a big attrition list with Zerkova1. Even though she doesn't have any damage buff herself, the list is pretty self sustaining on that point, a lot of stuff has blessed and it's not lacking in the damage buff department with ragman, the hermit, throne buff, alexia3's buff, if you manage to stack all these things together you can get your lost souls up to pow 20.
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Post by borderprince on Apr 24, 2019 13:09:41 GMT
I thought Alexia was a thamarite as well, but upon looking at her backstory it seems like she isn't. She's just crazy. That is because she unwillingly became the host of the souls within the Witchfire. Her backstoryx makes no mention of her religios affiliation at all actually. In the original Witchfire Trilogy Alexia is broadly speaking Morrowan (albeit no real evidence of being devout) - her uncle was a Morrowan priest. She seems to want to try and avoid upsetting him, certainly isn't opposed to the Morrowan church, and is more Morrowan than anything else. Her activities during the Skorne's first invasion were even the fulfilment of a Morrowan prophecy.
But she's got an agenda which isn't in line with the church (develop her necromantic abilities to help her dead mother) and so can come into conflict with the Morrowan authorities. Especially the Order of Illumination, but they also sometimes conflict with the rest of the church too, at least in terms of methods and willingness to compromise. But there's no evidence she wants personal power for her own sake, which means she rejects the key tenet of Thamarism.
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Post by Havock on Apr 24, 2019 13:48:05 GMT
Okay, here's my take: Setup: Pretend to be Legion of Steel but better. conflictchamber.com/?c3201b_-1k7bp59yoQoZoToRoKoIoJoMoMo_o_Khador Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Flame in the Darkness !!! This army contains CID entries. !!! This list is using a CID theme. [Zerkova 1] Koldun Kommander Aleksandra Zerkova [+28] - Gallant [17] - Lancer [10] Alexia, The Undying [0(5)] Glyn Cormier, Illuminated One [0(6)] Grand Master Gabriel Throne [7] Hermit of Henge Hold [4] Morrowan Archon [8] Ragman [4] Savio Montero Acosta [0(6)] Thamarite Archon [8] Thamarite Archon [8] Legion of Lost Souls (max) [18] Legion of Lost Souls (max) [18] What does it do? Deliver shit that hurts. Cheapest way to get the jacks? Buy a Cygnar starter and a Gallant upgrade kit. |
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Post by auraco on Apr 24, 2019 14:38:23 GMT
I quite like that list
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Post by hocestbellum on Apr 24, 2019 19:10:47 GMT
Why Alexia? The Legion and the Archons are not living, so you only have 5 targets for Passive Necromancy, and they're mostly support you don't want near the action
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Post by auraco on Apr 24, 2019 19:14:54 GMT
She has a spell that gives a +2 str buff to undead. Which is a lot of models in that list.
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Post by Havock on Apr 24, 2019 20:55:11 GMT
She just high-fives the legion of lost souls and adds to the potential +6 swing.
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Post by gobber on Apr 24, 2019 21:28:04 GMT
Not sure if the thamarites specifically are fully competitive, but 3 units of the legion of lost souls with feat/cloud delivery sounds pretty sweet? Alexia+Throne buffs get the lost souls up to ps16 before ragman/hermit debuffs are applied; freezing mists and the morrowan archon can stack atk debuffs to get those lost souls up to effective def 16
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Post by auraco on Apr 24, 2019 22:08:55 GMT
Yeah the amount of self buff flame in the darkness has is pretty amazing, which works well for a caster that doesn’t directly buff her stuff like Zerkova1
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