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Khador - Game 1

Theme: Armored Corps
2 / 2 Free Cards 74 / 75 Army 0 / 40 Specialist


Vladimir Tzepesci, The Dark Champion - WJ: +27
- Devastator - PC: 14
- Conquest - PC: 35 (Battlegroup Points Used: 27)

Gobber Tinker - PC: 2
Man-O-War Kovnik - PC: 4

Man-O-War Bombardiers - Leader & 4 Grunts: 16
- Man-O-War Bombardier Officer - PC: 0
Man-O-War Demolition Corps - Leader & 4 Grunts: 14
- Sergeant Dragos Dragadovich - PC: 0
Man-O-War Shocktroopers - Leader & 4 Grunts: 16


THEME: Armored Corps
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GENERATED : 04/14/2019 20:59:19
BUILD ID : 2071.19-02-05

Been playing that now for a while and I like it more then two units demo corps. Cycling HoF between the conquest and the bombardiers works wonders and suddenly gives you some really solid firepower. But I do likeyyour list too.

So, this is with a massive caveat: I don't know anything. I've not played in a couple of years, so... yeah. I got nothin'.

But because I likes me an S1 list... maybe this?

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Khador Army - 75 / 75 points
[Theme] Wolves of Winter

[Sorscha 1] Kommander Sorscha [+29]
- Beast 09 [18]
- Rager [10]
- Greylord Adjunct [0(4)]
Greylord Forge Seer [0(4)]
Koldun Lord [4]
Koldun Lord [4]
Saxon Orrik [4]
Alexia Ciannor & the Risen [10]
Doom Reaver Swordsmen [10]
- Greylord Escort [3]
Doom Reaver Swordsmen [10]
Doom Reaver Swordsmen [10]
Doom Reaver Swordsmen [10]
Doom Reaver Swordsmen [10]
Greylord Ternion [0(7)]

This is heavily dependant on you valuing Shield Guard...

Still 50 Doomies, but with 10-20 Risen mixed in to soak damage and take charges. Plus, lose an Escort, but gain a Saxon.

Most important, we've traded Grolar for a Rager and Saxon. We've only got two shots instead of the average 4, but Saxon might(?) be able to get off decent ones (if one POW less and unboosted) between his good range, RAT, AD, and general bad-assery. Fun opportunities against beast sides, too (adding one fury to chance a frenzy - against Saxon, which they'll probably miss, so you can add another fury. Ha).

If Rager's shield doesn't matter, it can contest (i.e. get beaten up) not too much worse than a Grolar. In other words, the shooting and damage output is not much worse, but the utility is much enhanced. We also get two shield guards for early-game, and one left when Beast does his thang. Lets S1 be a bit more aggressive with Grip etc.

The other part is trading a Ternion and an escort for Alexia1. You'll get a couple of solos out of it, and in my experience, Risen soak at least half of a Doomie death a piece. There are a LOT of times (IME) that a doomie horde just has to stand in a charge lane or landing spot. Risen do that, and die to chain lightning (and similar) just fine.

Loss of one escort is hopefully more than mitigated by Saxon's hand-me-out pathfinder, and he's a stealth DEF15 solo to do scenario things.

All in all, it's a better scenario side, and I don't know it loses too much in attrition.

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Alternatively, you could change Beast back for Grolar, and now you have significantly more ranged damage. How much work do you get from the +1 damage and assorted angriness of Beast? And if you're only going against three targets, Rager is often nearly as good as Beast on soft targets (boosting to hit).


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You also don't really-really need that second Koldun here. Could upgrade the Rager to a Destroyer, with doesn't have much less utility than a Grolar IMO.


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But here's my so-slightly-out-of-the-box-that-it's-pretty-much-just-clinging-on-to-the-side-of-the-box side:

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Khador Army - 75 / 75 points
[Theme] Wolves of Winter

[Sorscha 1] Kommander Sorscha [+29]
- Destroyer [14]
- Destroyer [14]
- Greylord Adjunct [0(4)]
Greylord Forge Seer [0(4)]
Koldun Lord [4]
Koldun Lord [4]
Saxon Orrik [4]
Alexia Ciannor & the Risen [10]
Doom Reaver Swordsmen [10]
- Greylord Escort [3]
Doom Reaver Swordsmen [10]
Doom Reaver Swordsmen [10]
Doom Reaver Swordsmen [10]
Doom Reaver Swordsmen [10]
Greylord Ternion [0(7)]


Two Destroyers, both getting +1 focus, with blasts and a bit of Saxon plinkery, makes up for the loss of Grolar, with a HEAP more range. Range matters a lot if you're running Fog. Two P&S17 axes wiht he odd crit are not too far behind the +8 damage from Beast or +4 from Grolar, if you can mitigate their hitting skillz. Who ever could mitigate their hitting skillz? Sorscha, that's who. But you've got Doomies everywhere, so hopefully the longer range shooting will make up more than the difference. Most important, though, it adds a significant assassination risk with Tempest or Blindsight -> Feat -> two boosted bombards on top of whatever else you got.

God I miss Behemoth. 

No shield guard, but two ranged heavies who can cheerfully share the back field and can have clouds to mitigage knockdown usually do the trick(?).

Anyway, would be keen to see your friend's S1 list with Alexia1...?

What role is grolar filling for you? Seems for sure you can better spend those points

I find Victor a great match for s1.