sorokin
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Post by sorokin on Apr 21, 2019 11:30:22 GMT
This really would have been a good time for them to take a look at Kossites... They could have made Swamp Gobbers better in the two CIDs they were in but didn't. They also could have made it so Ret can actually use Kiss of Lyliss by making Aiyana and Holt partisans in the two CIDs they were in yet didn't. Three CIDs if you count Cryx pirates. Guess some things are just not meant to be...
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Post by michael on Apr 21, 2019 18:48:30 GMT
This really would have been a good time for them to take a look at Kossites... They did look at Kossites. ...and they also pointed and laughed! Zing!
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Post by Armchair Warrior on Apr 21, 2019 19:37:08 GMT
OK, on to list building. How about this with Reznik 2 for serious anti infantry hate with enough hard hitting models to deal with armor and boxes short of brick spam (but even then, if you can deliver Connie she will hit with POW 25 fists...)
GC/Connies guns + Reznik seems good.
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Post by auraco on Apr 21, 2019 22:55:02 GMT
Well we can’t actually field reznik2 in khador so it’s kind of a moot point, isn’t it?
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Post by Havock on Apr 21, 2019 23:06:54 GMT
I think there will be some crossposting because people are posting in both topics which happen to be named exactly the same in the Menite section.
This is entirely as planned.
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Post by Armchair Warrior on Apr 21, 2019 23:12:42 GMT
Well we can’t actually field reznik2 in khador so it’s kind of a moot point, isn’t it? Well, yes and no. Hungerford wrote this: I figure the best way to make a case for allowing Khador to take the Menoth casters in Khador pairings is by posting results in a battle report, and adding commentary there. PP allots more weight there, even to things like “player experience”. So before this CID is over I’d like to test Reznik or Feora in a cav list. I doubt I’ll get enough time to do both, and also take run at something like Zerkova or Malakov in one of the other themes but candidly this Warriors theme is the one that excites me most. I’m thinking this for Reznik: I’m thinking Battlegroup heavy for Feora: The Grolar just seems really good with her. The Devastator seems cute, but I don’t want to bank a turn on a continuous effect and the point here would be to show that a heavy Khador Battlegroup with a Wrack and Choir isn’t broken (but fun as hell to play).
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Post by auraco on Apr 22, 2019 0:16:45 GMT
With only redline as a speed buff on Feora3 I don't really see why you'd want to run her with a big battlegroup though... Incite is nice with the grolar though.
My main issue at the moment with the theme are the free options that just suck for now. I'd like to see us get cavalry solos as free options. Yuri and manhunters are just not inspiring at the moment.
I'll also be curious to see where the menoth archon ends up because Dash is acrually pretty great on a model with flight and flame trail. The dispel and grevious wounds are also not bad here and we can actually take 2 of them and they count as faction in that theme, might be a way to make them shine.
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Post by Armchair Warrior on Apr 22, 2019 0:23:36 GMT
Are flying models base to base when they pass over other models?
If so, maybe drop a jack and do this (just gets to 60 points).
[Feora 3] Feora, the Conquering Flame [+27] - Grolar [18] - Juggernaut [13] - Marauder [11] Hermit of Henge Hold [0(4)] Manhunter [0(4)] Menite Archon [8] Menite Archon [8] Wrack [1] Yuri the Axe [0(6)] Choir of Menoth (max) [6] Greylord Outriders (max) [17] Iron Fang Uhlans (max) [20]
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Post by Havock on Apr 22, 2019 1:31:34 GMT
Honestly, Paladins make a lot more sense thematically than Yuri & co.
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sorokin
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Post by sorokin on Apr 22, 2019 12:29:57 GMT
If anyone is confuse about the thematic reasons for Manhunters and Kossites in the theme: A majority of people in Khadoran rural areas are Menites, Kossites et al especially so. Reason for that is the fact that they never had much exposure to the Church of Morrow in their backwater villages. It also makes sense as Menoth was the first hunter, which is what most of these people do to survive, see Idrians.
To be fair though, there are communities of Wurm worshippers among some villages, but i don't think that should disqualify Manhunters and Kossites in general.
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Post by auraco on Apr 22, 2019 12:46:39 GMT
Are flying models base to base when they pass over other models? If so, maybe drop a jack and do this (just gets to 60 points). [Feora 3] Feora, the Conquering Flame [+27] - Grolar [18] - Juggernaut [13] - Marauder [11] Hermit of Henge Hold [0(4)] Manhunter [0(4)] Menite Archon [8] Menite Archon [8] Wrack [1] Yuri the Axe [0(6)] Choir of Menoth (max) [6] Greylord Outriders (max) [17] Iron Fang Uhlans (max) [20] Yes models are considered in base contact when the go over an other model's base. In your list with 3 jacks like that I think I'd actually take vassals instead of the manhunter as a free option. Vlad3 tends to cast a lot of spells so he doesn't actually have that much focus for his jacks, having empower and enliven would complement the jacks pretty well. If you do try it let us know how it goes. I find the menoth archon mostly underwhelming, but dash really makes it more interesting. I could actually see myself just run one of them 14'' to set a ton of models on fire, then have the second one charge in on the most important model that was set on fire. Warriors of the old faith is pretty much our only list where we can take two of them and have them as faction model on top of that.
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Post by welshhoppo on Apr 23, 2019 5:49:15 GMT
Dash is faction friendly. So it doesn't work I'm afraid.
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Post by Havock on Apr 23, 2019 6:33:01 GMT
Dash is faction friendly. So it doesn't work I'm afraid. It actually does; Menite archons are permitted per the theme force and it also stipulates that all models in the army are considered Khador or Protectorate models depending on caster.
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Post by auraco on Apr 23, 2019 9:44:38 GMT
Havock has the gist of it. All the models you take in the list are considered friendly faction, that includes the archons.
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Post by mydnight on Apr 23, 2019 19:20:23 GMT
If anyone is confuse about the thematic reasons for Manhunters and Kossites in the theme: A majority of people in Khadoran rural areas are Menites, Kossites et al especially so. Reason for that is the fact that they never had much exposure to the Church of Morrow in their backwater villages. It also makes sense as Menoth was the first hunter, which is what most of these people do to survive, see Idrians. To be fair though, there are communities of Wurm worshippers among some villages, but i don't think that should disqualify Manhunters and Kossites in general. Yes, add Idrians to the theme!
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