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Post by hocestbellum on Apr 18, 2019 11:19:21 GMT
They are cavalry models, so I think so!
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Post by mydnight on Apr 18, 2019 11:42:20 GMT
Does the line "Khador Cavalry Units/Models" allow the battle engines? I am trying to see if the gun carriage or the MoW Assault chariot can clear some chaff to let ulhans get to the meatier targets? Yes but they dont count towards free points for now.
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sorokin
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Post by sorokin on Apr 18, 2019 12:00:21 GMT
Does the line "Khador Cavalry Units/Models" allow the battle engines? I am trying to see if the gun carriage or the MoW Assault chariot can clear some chaff to let ulhans get to the meatier targets? Yes but they dont count towards free points for now. I'm a sad panda. Even more so since i wanted to employ Feora for the motherland!
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Post by Havock on Apr 18, 2019 19:42:12 GMT
Yes, but it doesn't offer freebies and the list honestly is goign to have very little issues clearing infantry with Connie or Judi sitting there farting out HoF'd, Battle-Hymned explosions and/or sprays,
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Post by sand20go on Apr 18, 2019 20:08:08 GMT
Yes, but it doesn't offer freebies and the list honestly is goign to have very little issues clearing infantry with Connie or Judi sitting there farting out HoF'd, Battle-Hymned explosions and/or sprays, Yup.
I think the main issue right now is Uhlans/Vengers OR the gang of 4 (2 champs; 2 Drakhuns).
I THINK that the math favors the heavy unit with Vlad2 because of being able to swap HoF onto them. Probably for Fiorra better to go with the gang of 4. That said, you CAN squeeze in 2 dragoons and still have room for 2 units of Cav.
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Post by Havock on Apr 18, 2019 20:47:21 GMT
I'd be tempted to go Colossal/Dervish/Superfriends/Flamebringers.
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Post by Armchair Warrior on Apr 19, 2019 0:35:38 GMT
Updated in today’s CID:
Seems good for Vlad 3 (who remains the only caster we can take in theme).
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Post by Armchair Warrior on Apr 19, 2019 1:19:59 GMT
OK, so I’m musing on lists for Vlad. Let’s discuss. This is my start.
[Vladimir 3] Vladimir Tzepesci, Great Prince of Umbrey [+27] - Victor [34] Hermit (0) Manhunter [0(4)] Menite Archon [8] Vassal Mechanik [1] Wrack [1] Yuri the Axe [0(6)] Choir of Menoth (min) [4] Flame Bringers (max) [17] Greylord Outriders (max) [17] Iron Fang Uhlans (max) [20]
Some questions and musings...
Victor over Judicator? Advantages - #1. POW 25 fists seem really good. So does a RNG 20, AOE 5, POW 17/POW 10 blast big gun that sets stuff on fire for the Archon, followed up by 2-6 RNG 12, POW 14 shots. You can’t stack HoF and Infernal Machine anyway, and (a) IF is actually really good, and (b) there are so many things in this army that want HoF.
3rd Unit vs. Cav Solos? Man, the free solos in this army really piss me off. I don’t want dudes without horses. I’d really like to put in Ferris and a Drakhun, but with HoF available on the big units where do you find the points? Are any of the Menoth cav worth it?
3rd Unit vs. Battle Engine? OK, this is hard, since the list with a colossal only has one model to score square zones, and our battle engines are really good. Which one? I think the Gun Carraige might be the best swap for the sheer volume of attacks.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Apr 19, 2019 5:48:11 GMT
You know, Irusk is getting a little bit old, perhaps it's time for him to start riding around on a horse instead of walking around everywhere?
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Post by mcdermott on Apr 19, 2019 6:28:06 GMT
harkevich gunwagon cav BE caster
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Post by steeltitan on Apr 19, 2019 8:46:49 GMT
I think cav solos should be free choices to make this theme more competitive. Having to pay for cav units (i.e. bulk of the army), solos and BE is too limiting.
What about Siege Chariots? Somehow i feel that the smite gun in combination with dash, side step, sprint and fast cav would be a good scenario option...
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Post by Armchair Warrior on Apr 19, 2019 10:28:11 GMT
I think cav solos should be free choices to make this theme more competitive. Having to pay for cav units (i.e. bulk of the army), solos and BE is too limiting. What about Siege Chariots? Somehow i feel that the smite gun in combination with dash, side step, sprint and fast cav would be a good scenario option... Yes, there’s a growing chorus of players on CID suggesting that the theme allow a free cav solo for every 30 points of qualifying models, which feels like a good compromise. I don’t think any of the 3 battle engines is a bad choice, depending on what units you brought - e.g. if you have outriders for infantry clearing, the siege engine could be very good.
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leander
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Post by leander on Apr 19, 2019 11:49:49 GMT
You know, Irusk is getting a little bit old, perhaps it's time for him to start riding around on a horse instead of walking around everywhere?
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Post by jonnyboy on Apr 19, 2019 12:09:05 GMT
You know, Irusk is getting a little bit old, perhaps it's time for him to start riding around on a horse instead of walking around everywhere? We could only be so blessed..
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Zaku
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Post by Zaku on Apr 21, 2019 7:05:07 GMT
This really would have been a good time for them to take a look at Kossites...
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