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Post by MrHaystacks on Apr 15, 2019 8:43:15 GMT
mm, How doe the PoM Lights change up Vlad? The purifier (the light with 2 flails) looks like it could do good work on feat turn.
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Post by Havock on Apr 15, 2019 13:58:32 GMT
Too bad Vlad2 isn't going to be in it :v
I feat on these Drakhuns and these Paladins.
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Post by Havock on Apr 15, 2019 14:14:59 GMT
mm, How doe the PoM Lights change up Vlad? The purifier (the light with 2 flails) looks like it could do good work on feat turn. The Devout has a cute little synergy with him in that Wind Wall protects them both from nonmagical shooting, he makes it so you can't cast spells at Vlad and he can shieldguard a magical shot away. The Defensive Strike is just a little cherry on top.
The Purifier can light a lot of things up between gaining sidestep and sprinting in someone's face.
Feora3 and Decimators...?
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Post by sand20go on Apr 15, 2019 14:44:55 GMT
mm, How doe the PoM Lights change up Vlad? The purifier (the light with 2 flails) looks like it could do good work on feat turn. The Devout has a cute little synergy with him in that Wind Wall protects them both from nonmagical shooting, he makes it so you can't cast spells at Vlad and he can shieldguard a magical shot away. The Defensive Strike is just a little cherry on top.
The Purifier can light a lot of things up between gaining sidestep and sprinting in someone's face.
Feora3 and Decimators...? OH that is hysterical. There could be a LOT of Tharn on fire (cause you would redline the devestator first ;-). Bring the light protectorate ponies. Add a Drakhun (or 2) in with some of their solos to abuse Incite. That sounds like a DAMM solid early game feat turn ;-)
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Post by Havock on Apr 15, 2019 16:26:45 GMT
I was talking about having Decimators actually do work: They go up to an effective RAT6 POW17 with two shots each.
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Post by sand20go on Apr 15, 2019 16:53:22 GMT
I was talking about having Decimators actually do work: They go up to an effective RAT6 POW17 with two shots each. Ahhh....way too early. I was thinking DEVESTATORS running 12 inches and lighting a bunch of crap on fire as they bulldozed ;-)
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Post by michael on Apr 15, 2019 16:56:48 GMT
I was talking about having Decimators actually do work: They go up to an effective RAT6 POW17 with two shots each. Still gotta have the focus to fuel them, though. (Bearing in mind that I am a huge proponent of Decimators when I say that.)
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Post by auraco on Apr 15, 2019 16:57:50 GMT
Are we sure we can actually take the menoth jack with the theme if run in khador? I think the difference between us and menoth running it is basically the jack choice. Other than the judicator, the character jacks and maybe the devout I don't think we're missing out on too much tho. Feora3 could actually be interesting to run the decimator, maybe... And yeah I wish we could use Vlad2 in there instead of Vlad3, even with a mostly cavalry list I still think Vlad2's kit is better. Really looking forward to exactly what we can take, I think being able to play with our battle engine is going to be a big part of if this theme works or not.
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Post by Havock on Apr 15, 2019 18:09:21 GMT
I was talking about having Decimators actually do work: They go up to an effective RAT6 POW17 with two shots each. Still gotta have the focus to fuel them, though. (Bearing in mind that I am a huge proponent of Decimators when I say that.) Well with a flat ROF2 I suppose it helps, although statistically it's only roughly equivalent to S&P and V1 isn't making Decimators shine so eh :v
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Post by Ganso on Apr 15, 2019 18:42:24 GMT
Are we sure we can actually take the menoth jack with the theme if run in khador? I think the difference between us and menoth running it is basically the jack choice. Other than the judicator, the character jacks and maybe the devout I don't think we're missing out on too much tho. Feora3 could actually be interesting to run the decimator, maybe... And yeah I wish we could use Vlad2 in there instead of Vlad3, even with a mostly cavalry list I still think Vlad2's kit is better. Really looking forward to exactly what we can take, I think being able to play with our battle engine is going to be a big part of if this theme works or not. Keep in mind this list would allow Khador Casters to run Menoth Jacks. One thing I didn't consider though is the Light Jack load out in a Khador Army, can Vlad do anything even remotely interesting with the Light Jacks?
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Post by auraco on Apr 15, 2019 19:43:36 GMT
Are we sure we can actually take the menoth jack with the theme if run in khador? I think the difference between us and menoth running it is basically the jack choice. Other than the judicator, the character jacks and maybe the devout I don't think we're missing out on too much tho. Feora3 could actually be interesting to run the decimator, maybe... And yeah I wish we could use Vlad2 in there instead of Vlad3, even with a mostly cavalry list I still think Vlad2's kit is better. Really looking forward to exactly what we can take, I think being able to play with our battle engine is going to be a big part of if this theme works or not. Keep in mind this list would allow Khador Casters to run Menoth Jacks. One thing I didn't consider though is the Light Jack load out in a Khador Army, can Vlad do anything even remotely interesting with the Light Jacks? I might be wrong but it might be that if you run the list in khador you must take khador jacks and if you run it in menoth you must run the menoth jacks, not sure we’ll be able to just pick what ever we want. Having access to the choir or not also affect how good the menoth jacks actually are. And short answer, no I don’t think Vlad3 does enough for light jacks to make them worth it. The only thing he has that helps them is his feat and it’s a terrible feat.
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Post by Ganso on Apr 15, 2019 19:52:02 GMT
You can, for example, grab Reznik, declare him a faithful servant of the Empress, and give him Khador jacks. But you'll still be able to mix and match Menoth/Khador units.
I don't think the Choir is going to be part of this theme though. Seems that if your not on a horse, you are SOOL
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Post by leander on Apr 15, 2019 20:02:04 GMT
on the announcement video of this theme the devs did point out the example of vlad3 with a judicator. So i'm assuming jacks from the other faction can be used.
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Post by sand20go on Apr 15, 2019 22:50:24 GMT
Now I am going to assume we get the choir. Not sure this works well without it....
But......
Lets not sell Vlad3 short. Lets put in a unit of Uhlans and a Unit of Vegners and then the solos that we can (including Markov to get sweet tactician).
Dash gives our boys a pretty game alerting 14 inch threat range. Meanwhile the Judicator is dead center firing off those sweet Double HoF rocket pods. If your opponent doesn't close....well...sucks to be them. Then, when they DO commit off you go. Lots of options here to knock down stuff with the Uhlans, hit and sprint away, etc. etc. etc. Cycle HoF onto whichever one can do the most damage.
Feels "fun" ;-)
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Post by Havock on Apr 16, 2019 0:41:19 GMT
You can, for example, grab Reznik, declare him a faithful servant of the Empress, and give him Khador jacks. But you'll still be able to mix and match Menoth/Khador units. I don't think the Choir is going to be part of this theme though. Seems that if your not on a horse, you are SOOL Well they did say "a few other things", it's arguably a fairly safe bet that, say, mechanics are in.
Choir is probably too good to be true
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