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Post by blueart1 on Mar 20, 2019 4:22:37 GMT
Can colossals be pushed, placed, thrown, slammed or disrupted?
I remember when they first came out they could not, but there is no mention of this in their current cards.
Thanks in advance.
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Post by blueart1 on Mar 20, 2019 4:30:05 GMT
Found all the answers on warmachineuniversity.com
To recap for others: Colossals cannot move outside of activation, cannot be placed, slammed, pushed, thrown, knocked down or made stationary. They never suffer disruption or grievous wounds.
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Post by Ianassa on Mar 20, 2019 18:53:58 GMT
They can also never benefit from cover, concealment of from the targeting in melee penalty.
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Post by michael on Mar 20, 2019 20:41:59 GMT
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Post by Mr.Human on Apr 1, 2019 21:51:22 GMT
Can you HoF creeping barrage? It is an attack right?
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Post by michael on Apr 1, 2019 22:55:24 GMT
Can you HoF creeping barrage? It is an attack right? C’mon, folks. Creeping Barrage literally starts with “Instead of attacking with this weapon...”
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Post by michael on Apr 1, 2019 22:58:31 GMT
They can also never benefit from cover, concealment of from the targeting in melee penalty. That is not correct. Huge-based models never gain the target in melee DEF bonus.
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Post by Mr.Human on Apr 1, 2019 23:27:21 GMT
Can you HoF creeping barrage? It is an attack right? C’mon, folks. Creeping Barrage literally starts with “Instead of attacking with this weapon...” I was thinking it referred to the part you left out..."during this models activation...". So the damage it creates is not from an attack, it just "is"?
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Post by welshhoppo on Apr 2, 2019 13:26:04 GMT
C’mon, folks. Creeping Barrage literally starts with “Instead of attacking with this weapon...” I was thinking it referred to the part you left out..."during this models activation...". So the damage it creates is not from an attack, it just "is"? You can HoF creeping barrage. It's a damage roll.
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Post by michael on Apr 2, 2019 13:47:51 GMT
I was thinking it referred to the part you left out..."during this models activation...". So the damage it creates is not from an attack, it just "is"? You can HoF creeping barrage. It's a damage roll. No, you can’t. At no point during Creeping Barrage are you in the attack timing chart, which is the only time allowed by the rules when you can boost or add dice to damage rolls. This is the same reason that Covering Fire doesn’t get Caine3’s Reap the Whirlwind bonus damage, or multiple other similar examples don’t work.
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Post by hocestbellum on Apr 2, 2019 15:10:44 GMT
I'm pretty sure it works, although I'd need to check my books. Hand of Fate doesn't say 'attack damage rolls' like Butcher's feat. It says 'attack or damage roll'. Creeping Barrage is a damage roll. If I remember correctly, HoF will also buff an exploding Berzerker Edit: privateerpressforums.com/archive/index.php/t-272121.html
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Post by michael on Apr 2, 2019 16:33:27 GMT
I'm pretty sure it works, although I'd need to check my books. Hand of Fate doesn't say 'attack damage rolls' like Butcher's feat. It says 'attack or damage roll'. Creeping Barrage is a damage roll. If I remember correctly, HoF will also buff an exploding Berzerker Edit: privateerpressforums.com/archive/index.php/t-272121.htmlAll right, so we got this through Infernal ruling that the damage is coming from the model and not the AOE after all. Fair enough! I was wrong. (In my defense, I missed that one because I was on Day 2 of “Working 12-18 Hour Days For 18 Days Straight”. July/August 2017 really sucked for me.)
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Post by welshhoppo on Apr 2, 2019 20:56:18 GMT
See. I'm not a totallllll idiot.
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Post by mrtuna on Apr 2, 2019 23:39:07 GMT
I'm pretty sure it works, although I'd need to check my books. Hand of Fate doesn't say 'attack damage rolls' like Butcher's feat. It says 'attack or damage roll'. Creeping Barrage is a damage roll. If I remember correctly, HoF will also buff an exploding Berzerker Edit: privateerpressforums.com/archive/index.php/t-272121.htmlAll right, so we got this through Infernal ruling that the damage is coming from the model and not the AOE after all. Fair enough! I was wrong. (In my defense, I missed that one because I was on Day 2 of “Working 12-18 Hour Days For 18 Days Straight”. July/August 2017 really sucked for me.) It’s special when people are both insistent and deragatory and wrong.
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Post by Gamingdevil on Apr 3, 2019 6:57:50 GMT
All right, so we got this through Infernal ruling that the damage is coming from the model and not the AOE after all. Fair enough! I was wrong. (In my defense, I missed that one because I was on Day 2 of “Working 12-18 Hour Days For 18 Days Straight”. July/August 2017 really sucked for me.) It’s special when people are both insistent and deragatory and wrong. Uncalled for? He admitted he was wrong and he was only trying to help even though his original response did indeed sound a bit smug.
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