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Starcrossed lovers Mar 18, 2019 20:35:49 GMT via mobile flogger likes this

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Post by ironjens on Mar 18, 2019 20:35:49 GMT

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I’m an infrequent Warmahordes player as real life has bit into my dedicated nerd time but this Saturday I will hopefully be able to play at a local 18 man tournament. I think it was in January I played the last time. For that tournament I brought Vlad 2 in AC and a Butcher3 WG-list. Both lists worked nicely (aside from me dropping the ball all over the place, but at least the lists weren't to fault) but since the Doom Reaver CID dropped I’m looking forward to trying the new hotness.

So Vlad will drop his butcher pal and have a date with his girlfriend Sorscha. I’m trying out a list that is a tiny bit more generalist than just reaver spam, since stationary and magic shotguns sounds fun, and I can finally use my Alexia2 for the first time in mkIII. So the list:

Theme: Wolves of Winter
3 / 3 Free Cards     75 / 75 Army

Kommander Sorscha - WJ: +29
-    Greylord Adjunct - PC: 4
-    Ruin - PC: 17
-    Destroyer - PC: 14
Fenris - PC: 8
-    Fenris (Continued)
Koldun Lord - PC: 0
Koldun Lord - PC: 0
Alexia, Mistress of the Witchfire - PC: 7
-    Thrall Warrior
Doom Reaver Swordsmen - Leader & 5 Grunts: 10
-    Greylord Escort - PC: 3
Doom Reaver Swordsmen - Leader & 5 Grunts: 10
-    Greylord Escort - PC: 3
Doom Reaver Swordsmen - Leader & 5 Grunts: 10
-    Greylord Escort - PC: 3
Greylord Ternion - Leader & 2 Grunts: 0
Greylord Outriders - Leader & 2 Grunts: 10
Kayazy Eliminators - Leader & 1 Grunt: 5

It’s a bit of everything including a destroyer with guidance and Ruin and 3 three free cards. With all the magic weapons and Sorschas stationary I guess this will be my Cryx and Grymkin drop.

The second list is Vlad 2 AC. Having tried a couple of different iterations of AC I’ve decided to forego the hammer dudes for double Drakhuns. Even with the minifeat I’ve never managed to make them reach the enemy. Bombardiers have almost as bad a track record almost never getting to shoot stuff. I’ll give them some more tries before I go with double shock troopers. I’ve been dubious over Atana’s worth as well as cheap, buying just two Strike Tankers and Dragadovich was expensive enough to enjoy the new hotness of AC, and the hammer dude let me down, over and over. Even though it’s one of the coolest Khador models. So the Vlad list looks like this:

Theme: Armored Corps
3 / 3 Free Cards     75 / 75 Army

Vladimir Tzepesci, The Dark Champion - WJ: +27
-    Greylord Adjunct - PC: 4
-    Devastator - PC: 14
-    Juggernaut - PC: 13

Saxon Orrik - PC: 4
Man-O-War Kovnik - PC: 4
Man-O-War Kovnik - PC: 4
Man-O-War Strike Tanker - PC: 0
Man-O-War Strike Tanker - PC: 0
Man-O-War Drakhun - PC: 9
-    Man-O-War Drakhun (Continued)
Man-O-War Drakhun - PC: 9
-    Man-O-War Drakhun (Continued)

Man-O-War Bombardiers - Leader & 4 Grunts: 16
-    Man-O-War Bombardier Officer - PC: 0
Kayazy Eliminators - Leader & Grunt: 5
Man-O-War Shocktroopers - Leader & 4 Grunts: 16
-    Man-O-War Shocktrooper Officer - PC: 4

A lot of potential feat targets as well as scenario blockers and three free cards. Maybe a bit too allround but I’m hopeful it will be able to compete in the different scenarios.

If I’m lucky I’ll get to try one of them at game night tomorrow so I don’t go completely unprepared into the tournament. We will see. Hopefully the Romeo and Juliet angle will give me some fluff points at least.

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Starcrossed lovers Mar 18, 2019 22:25:59 GMT via mobile

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Post by reddust82 on Mar 18, 2019 22:25:59 GMT

You’re the first AC list I’ve seen in a while that has included two MoW Drakhuns... have you gotten a lot of use out of them in the past to justify 18 points?

I’m interested in running them myself, but two really makes points tight, maybe? What’s your experience in the past been?

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Starcrossed lovers Mar 19, 2019 7:09:32 GMT via mobile

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Post by ironjens on Mar 19, 2019 7:09:32 GMT

Ah, I put them in as a direct replacement for the hammer dudes. Regardless of having the new UA with the sanguine bond minifeat Arm16 simply doesn't cut it, they get shot to shit on the way in, seeing as they're both a priority target and not too hard to kill. Maybe if running Zerkova1 or Sorsha3 who are able to cloud them they'll find a place, but at the same time they're unreliable weapon masters. Shocktroopers have better survivability and hit just as hard. So I just think they're a no-no for me, even though Dragadovich is one of my favourite khador models. I miss the demo corps old WM or double attack.

Replacing them with double Drakhun offer exactly the same fire magnets for the enemy but higher survivability. Also, until they're unhorsed, I get speed which is otherwise sorely missed in AC. And countercharge always manages to put a wrench in the enemy's plans. So far they've drawn fire and managed to block the opponent out of some control points so it has been a fair trade. I guess I'll get more worth out of them when I've played some more.

But I will agree with everybody else, 9 points is a steep price. But treating the pair as a hmmer corps replacement makes the price a bit more palatable.

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Starcrossed lovers Mar 19, 2019 12:22:14 GMT via mobile

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Post by jonnyboy on Mar 19, 2019 12:22:14 GMT

Mar 19, 2019 7:09:32 GMT ironjens said:

Ah, I put them in as a direct replacement for the hammer dudes. Regardless of having the new UA with the sanguine bond minifeat Arm16 simply doesn't cut it, they get shot to shit on the way in, seeing as they're both a priority target and not too hard to kill. Maybe if running Zerkova1 or Sorsha3 who are able to cloud them they'll find a place, but at the same time they're unreliable weapon masters. Shocktroopers have better survivability and hit just as hard. So I just think they're a no-no for me, even though Dragadovich is one of my favourite khador models. I miss the demo corps old WM or double attack.

Replacing them with double Drakhun offer exactly the same fire magnets for the enemy but higher survivability. Also, until they're unhorsed, I get speed which is otherwise sorely missed in AC. And countercharge always manages to put a wrench in the enemy's plans. So far they've drawn fire and managed to block the opponent out of some control points so it has been a fair trade. I guess I'll get more worth out of them when I've played some more.

But I will agree with everybody else, 9 points is a steep price. But treating the pair as a hmmer corps replacement makes the price a bit more palatable.

I hear people say that a lot about the democorps. I have found myself always including a siege chariot for that reason. Between the siege chariot, terrain, vlad2's anti shooting, and sanguine bond I have been pretty successful in delivering the democorps. A 6" cloud and huge based model is a pretty effective screen.

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Starcrossed lovers Mar 19, 2019 22:23:49 GMT via mobile

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Post by ironjens on Mar 19, 2019 22:23:49 GMT

Did I say I was cheap? I'm a bit disappointed in the box count on the chariots as well as the price. Otherwise I guess I'd get one. Although I might scratch build a new turret for my fun carriage as it is magnetized for ease of transport. But then I guess I would drop the bombardiers for the blast wagon and still skip the demolition corps.

We'll see.

Today I got to try out the Sorscha list against one of the guys at the store. Who turned out the be country's top ranked player. But he's nice and even let me apparition even though I forgot it almost every maintenance phase.

He had a "for fun" Morghoul3 anti infantry list designed to sort-of-feat every turn by applying three blind unit spells per turn. Since I had Doomies he said he was done for.

But I spent almost half an hour hemming and hawing turn two of where to apply Sorscha's feat, so I gave it away. It really tells if you are unpracticed in this game.

But the list is really nice with fun synergies and neat combos and I also found out after I'd lost both Koldun lords that they have spells of their own, both puppet master and damage boost on a stick. I'd totally missed out on that.

Also I learned that Eyeless sight lets you ignore clouds, which I sort of had forgotten

I lost on time on time but was the only one who had scored any CP:s. It was a fun game and a promising list. I guess I will aim for my old goal on Saturday: To not end up last.