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Post by rojackso on Mar 14, 2019 21:07:45 GMT
Ok I've been stalking these forums for a while now and would consider myself a hobbyist on the bunny-er and fluffier side of things so I wanna ask you all... where did all the the lore go?! Faction books, Expansions, Skull Island, and NQ have all for the most part gone silent. Periodically we'll get a insider with a little something but those seen shorter than the usual short story. I know we're getting stormbreak (poor Khador losing their war for justice and domination) and this oblivion thing (it's a campaign book right?), but where did all the other stories go? I guess what I'm really sad about is that I haven't seen anything on skull island recently and that was something that I really enjoyed. So what does everyone think? Are we going back to silencing writing and books like they did back in the Orgoth ages? Or will Ascendent Seacat come down from on high and bless us with lore and his all encompassing love? Also I'm still a sucker for this game and I'm still gonna toss them my money I just want to see what their plans are for this vibrant world they've created.
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snoozer
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Post by snoozer on Mar 14, 2019 21:22:19 GMT
Probably they don't know themselves right now. That is a shame tough, because the lore is really great and the last NQ published had really good quality. It was mentioned that they wanted to push everything to "online" but have not specified what that means...
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Post by anderfreak on Mar 14, 2019 21:23:44 GMT
I'd bet the novels get back on a regular schedule after Oblivion, since it'll likely have lasting effects on the world beyond this campaign.
I also hope that more IKRPG source books like monsternomicons and faction specific soucebooks start coming out to fill the void that the expansion books and NQ left in the fluff.
We just have to wait and see unfortunately...
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Post by Aegis on Mar 16, 2019 4:35:40 GMT
The lore was almost totally forgotten in the last years.
IKRPG was abandoned, NQ closed, and novels almost stopped to come out (including promised trilogies).
Other than that, the game also has detached a lot from the lore, with new models that had rules totally conflicting with the existing lore and even new announced games (Riot Quest) that pretend to take from WM lore (to attract fans) but totally wrack it with a "What if" mindset, instead to progress coherently the actual lore.
That is my biggest complain about recent PP work.
About the news, seems that the end of the Llael invasion trilogy will be decided with a game event (another thing that suggests the total subordination of the lore to the tabletop game).
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Post by shiver on Mar 16, 2019 19:29:40 GMT
Skull Island Expeditions is closed, the IKRPG is discontinued, NQ Prime is discontinued, forces of and command books are discontinued. They did kickstart an art book though.
It's a shame too, as I agree with you that the lore is wonderful. We are supposed to see new lore with the Oblivion campaign book, which will be the first book they've put out in 2 years *I think*. Though there is nothing to make me think that novels will begin again and much to Aegis's point, they seem to be subverting the lore to the tabletop game and using events and the occasional league to write their lore for them.
PP lore is one of my biggest lament. When PP lore was done right, it was incredibly good and had lots of depth, awesome characters and stories that wove together and culminated in awesome things happening, like the battle of the wall, or the Orgoth temple, Haley and Denegrah. When it was done poorly, we got Haley 3, and Wrath of the Dragonfather.
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Post by gedditoffme on Mar 17, 2019 1:21:48 GMT
Do you have a source for Skull Island being closed? I know the novels have stopped for ~12-18mths, but didn’t think it was official.
Agree, blood of kings and the lead up was genius, into the storm, some of the old source books were great. Even the less amazing stuff was an enjoyable read. Really want more of it.
Hopefully oblivion is a fluff heavy source book in the vein of colossal, wrath etc.
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Post by michael on Mar 17, 2019 16:59:28 GMT
Do you have a source for Skull Island being closed? I know the novels have stopped for ~12-18mths, but didn’t think it was official. Agree, blood of kings and the lead up was genius, into the storm, some of the old source books were great. Even the less amazing stuff was an enjoyable read. Really want more of it. Hopefully oblivion is a fluff heavy source book in the vein of colossal, wrath etc. It’s not official. Shiver is repeating his opinion as if it were fact. As of June and August 2018, Skull Island was on hiatus while PP sorted out contracts due to the impending cancellation of No Quarter. Contracts included a clause about physical publishing, and that had to be addressed when PP started moving away from physical publishing. There’s stuff in the works. Source: I talked directly to Privateer about this at Lock & Load and GenCon 2018. (Please note: sure, it is 100% possible that something has changed since then, and I just don’t know. But I’m not just guessing and saying crap because I think my opinion is reality.  ) |
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Post by Aegis on Mar 17, 2019 17:35:44 GMT
Do you have a source for Skull Island being closed? I know the novels have stopped for ~12-18mths, but didn’t think it was official. Agree, blood of kings and the lead up was genius, into the storm, some of the old source books were great. Even the less amazing stuff was an enjoyable read. Really want more of it. Hopefully oblivion is a fluff heavy source book in the vein of colossal, wrath etc. The website was also discontinued: skullislandx.com/ |
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Post by shiver on Mar 17, 2019 19:21:35 GMT
Do you have a source for Skull Island being closed? I know the novels have stopped for ~12-18mths, but didn’t think it was official. Agree, blood of kings and the lead up was genius, into the storm, some of the old source books were great. Even the less amazing stuff was an enjoyable read. Really want more of it. Hopefully oblivion is a fluff heavy source book in the vein of colossal, wrath etc. It’s not official. Shiver is repeating his opinion as if it were fact. As of June and August 2018, Skull Island was on hiatus while PP sorted out contracts due to the impending cancellation of No Quarter. Contracts included a clause about physical publishing, and that had to be addressed when PP started moving away from physical publishing. There’s stuff in the works. Source: I talked directly to Privateer about this at Lock & Load and GenCon 2018. (Please note: sure, it is 100% possible that something has changed since then, and I just don’t know. But I’m not just guessing and saying crap because I think my opinion is reality. ) Well, the site is closed save for only as an access point for purchased digital material. And there are no new products to buy for some time, with the only products being their overstock of older books. I also want to say I read something on this not too far back, though I could be completely wrong on that. But otherwise, Seems pretty Firetrucking closed to me. Now, I'm not a betting man, but when a store closes up and moves its products to another store to sell and no longer releases product...well...that seems pretty closed to me. I'm not shopping at a GMC dealership for a brand new Pontiac these days. I am impressed tho, ... Edit
I am impressed tho, you tried to start a flame with a personal attack under my post... Please, be nice and avoid that.  |
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Post by cygnarstronk on Mar 18, 2019 10:00:49 GMT
gone like game balancing lol
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Post by nyarlathotep333 on Mar 19, 2019 20:34:36 GMT
I am out of the loop a bit, where was it stated that the RPG was no more? If that's true, I am definitely a sad panda.
I knew the future looked bleak for it, but I was always hoping that it would be picked back up at some point.
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Post by bacon on Mar 19, 2019 21:46:45 GMT
I dont think they discontinued it, it's just been a while since they released anything for it. The last thing I remember coming out for it was a no quater with a satyxis gunslinger class.
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Post by dragonstitch on Mar 19, 2019 23:55:38 GMT
From what I remember the main guy in charge of the RPG stuff left the company last year, with the last thing being released was Man-O-War Tanker stuff last may, and never released the RPG Crucible Guard content they talked about on the RPG forum.
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Post by michael on Mar 19, 2019 23:57:04 GMT
I am out of the loop a bit, where was it stated that the RPG was no more? If that's true, I am definitely a sad panda. I knew the future looked bleak for it, but I was always hoping that it would be picked back up at some point. Like with far too many other rumors-as-fact here, that has never been stated directly. Some RPG content was released in No Quarter Prime, and a small amount has been released sporadically in the Insider articles. Unless I am massively uninformed, the RPG has not been officially discontinued. So far as I am aware (source: talked to PP employees at Lock & Load & GenCon 2018) the RPG content is supposed to be released digitally on the revamped website. That’s just taking some time. (PP makes minis, not technology, y’know?) |
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Post by Charistoph on Mar 20, 2019 0:31:03 GMT
One should also consider how they have to change to make IKRPG somewhat profitable, including the upgrades that were previously in the No Quarters.
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