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Post by steeltitan on Jan 23, 2019 11:00:36 GMT
After the Spriggan got some much needed CID changes, it seems it is finally making its way into some lists. It's a strong jack and offers some much needed utility, dare I say, most importantly, cloud wall mitigation.
Now assuming that the CID suggestions for the Adjunct stick, we will have another and much cheaper option to clouds...although with a much more limited application.
Do you think we will see both in one list to really double down on anti-cloud wall tech or do you think that the Adjunct will replace the Spriggan in some lists?
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Post by kovnikninehouse on Jan 23, 2019 11:12:25 GMT
The adjunct might replace the spriggan in a select few lists but, in some other lists they will be played together because the adjunct will allow the spriggan to drop his targeting flare just behind the cloud wall just to clip the back edge of them to break the cloud wall even more
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Post by hocestbellum on Jan 23, 2019 12:08:21 GMT
I think it will depend: The Spriggan is for debuffing targets, the Adjunct is for buffing an attacker.
So if you are running WGK where you want a lot of shots to benefit, you need the Spriggan. If you just want Behemoth or Viktor to be able to shoot/charge through the cloud wall, then the Adjunct is better.
The other thing to take into consideration is that most lists that run a Spriggan are infantry-based lists; you have to spend those 28-ish WJP somewhere anyway, and Spriggan-Marauder is as good a way as any.
The Adjunct also has a lot of other things going for it, where as the Spriggan is just another beater outside of the Stealth removal. (And not even a very good one for the cost.)
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Post by Soul Samurai on Jan 23, 2019 12:11:25 GMT
Dude, the Spriggan would totally win! He has much higher ARM, P+S, and boxes!
Also Goku would beat Superman!
Wonder Woman would beat She-Hulk.
Spider-man would beat Batman the first time they fight, then Batman would beat Spider-man the second time.
Thor would beat Shazam by turning him back to human with a lightning bolt.
Not sure about who would win between King Kong and Godzilla though; Godzilla has nuclear breath but King Kong has opposable thumbs (on his hands AND feet! That's like four thumbs!)...
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mrtuna
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Post by mrtuna on Jan 23, 2019 13:17:02 GMT
The sprig is expensive. I could see jug plus adjunct being a better value.
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Post by borderprince on Jan 23, 2019 14:29:36 GMT
Do you think we will see both in one list to really double down on anti-cloud wall tech or do you think that the Adjunct will replace the Spriggan in some lists? I think we may see both in one list, but not to double-down on anti-cloud tech. If you take both, it is probably in part to get the magic weapon aspect of Guidance into a list. For example, a shooty WGK list may want a Spriggan to allow multiple units to target models hit by the Spriggan's flare. But WGK can be in real trouble against Incorporeal unless there is something other than the caster providing a magical attack. The Adjunct provides that too. |
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Post by smoothcriminal on Jan 23, 2019 14:39:22 GMT
Adjunct+juggy = 17pt
Spriggan = 17pt
Adjunct option is just better.
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Post by michael on Jan 23, 2019 17:30:51 GMT
Adjunct+juggy = 17pt Spriggan = 17pt Adjunct option is just better. The much more accurate answer is “it depends.” |
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Post by cplmustard on Jan 23, 2019 23:14:15 GMT
It's an interesting choice, adjunct is better if you have 1 stealth/clouded model to remove or viktor, spriggan is better if you have a lot of stealthed models to remove, spriggan+adjunct is better if you're worried about cloudwalls
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Post by maxtermynd on Jan 24, 2019 22:18:08 GMT
For cloud wall/stealth solution purposed the Adjunct really only helps one big target do stuff. Instead of saying I'd replace a Spriggan with juggy + adjunct instead it makes a much better case to take something like the Victor instead of two Spriggans. Victor's limitation WRT cloud walls and stealth was always that it couldn't ignore them to get the Flare shot off. Now it can, enabling your other army elements to contribute as well.
Adjunct + Spriggan also means that you can get your targeting flares exactly where you need them regardless of cloud wall placement, so simply adding the new guy to the list isn't a bad option either, or downgrading one of your spriggans to other jack + adjunct if you're tight on points.
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