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Post by sand20go on Jan 10, 2019 22:27:17 GMT
Looks like this is happening. Most of the wholesale sites have him up for a February 15th release. Have to figure that means an update for WoW that timeframe as well.
Sadly no Sorscha0 to be seen anywhere. Maybe April? Denny0 out 3/15.
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Post by Ganso on Jan 11, 2019 1:27:19 GMT
Sorscha_0 won't be in any Whole Seller listing, since that bunch is a Con thing. I'm guessing she'll be at LVO, along with the adjunct  |
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Post by hocestbellum on Jan 11, 2019 10:53:26 GMT
We're expecting the dynamic update at the end of the month, right? I think it's usually 6-8 weeks. That would fit with the release date.
Interesting to see how that all pans out. Doubt I'll bother dropping a hundred quid on Doom Reavers either way, but the Adjunct is a sure-thing if he's kept Guidance.
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Post by sand20go on Jan 11, 2019 15:39:36 GMT
We're expecting the dynamic update at the end of the month, right? I think it's usually 6-8 weeks. That would fit with the release date. Interesting to see how that all pans out. Doubt I'll bother dropping a hundred quid on Doom Reavers either way, but the Adjunct is a sure-thing if he's kept Guidance. +1 I think the doomies are going to be "nice to have" - and a great Dynamic update for those of us which had, in MK2, gotten on the totally fun Butcher 2 fun train. But if you didn't I am not sure it will be demanded (and I KNOW it will not be as fun as old Mad dogs cause what could be?  ) But sweet sweet eyeless sight (and magic!) is simply amazing. It isn't broken, won;'t warp the meta, but gives us an important answer in the current game state which, in turn, makes for a much more interesting game for Khador. |
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Post by thebuoyancyofwater on Jan 11, 2019 18:36:16 GMT
I think the Wolves of Winter and adjunct changes might break Khador wide open. On first look at things we will become a very diverse faction.
Cheers,
Dave
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Post by kovnikninehouse on Jan 11, 2019 18:44:59 GMT
Yeah wolves and armour corp is gonna be my pairing for the foreseeable future! And they are fun lists to play
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Post by Zaku on Jan 13, 2019 4:28:52 GMT
As much as I am enjoying WGK amd Jaws... The Wolves of Winter theme just looks like an incredibly fun theme to play now.
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Post by hocestbellum on Jan 13, 2019 10:09:59 GMT
What are people planning to run, Wolves-wise? I've got a couple of jack-based builds I'd like to try, but beyond that it seems like any list is going to be '30+ Doom Reavers, season to taste'.
It seems, as well, that it's going to play a lot like Legion of Steel? Good offence, poor defence, bugger all shooting, folds to infantry hate. Does have much better tech options though.
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Post by michael on Jan 13, 2019 13:48:06 GMT
What are people planning to run, Wolves-wise? .... Well, I still haven’t properly recalculated based on the week 3 CID point costs, but I think after free models (being the Ternions, I suspect) I’m only up to about 140 points of stuff, so that leaves me with about another 130-140 to fill up with warjacks (counting my WJ points of course). I suppose I’ll throw some Battle Mechaniks and War Dogs too, but we’ll see. We were talking Unbound, right?  |
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Post by auraco on Jan 14, 2019 13:14:54 GMT
What are people planning to run, Wolves-wise? I've got a couple of jack-based builds I'd like to try, but beyond that it seems like any list is going to be '30+ Doom Reavers, season to taste'. It seems, as well, that it's going to play a lot like Legion of Steel? Good offence, poor defence, bugger all shooting, folds to infantry hate. Does have much better tech options though. Vlad2 Wolves will work, it's currently the only way to run the list to any degree of success into specific match ups, now that list will just be way better with something like 20 more points on the table than what can currently be done. Zerkova2 will become playable, I still don't think she's going to break the game because there are too many counters to frost based spell, but it will open up her game into a lot of the game. Not sure if it's going to be the best, but I'm most excited by Sorscha1 Wolves, the adjunct is really good for her, and with a lot of theme going all in for at least 60 point of infantry I think she can do a lot of work with her stationnary shenanigeang. Getting guidance an puppet master in faction mean she can pretty reliably hit with Freezing grip when ever she wants and still keep for of war up. Zerkova1 and OW2 are also two interesting options for wolves, Zerkova to protect the list, OW to kind of protect the list and debuff to other side. |
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Post by hocestbellum on Jan 14, 2019 14:14:58 GMT
What are people planning to run, Wolves-wise? I've got a couple of jack-based builds I'd like to try, but beyond that it seems like any list is going to be '30+ Doom Reavers, season to taste'. It seems, as well, that it's going to play a lot like Legion of Steel? Good offence, poor defence, bugger all shooting, folds to infantry hate. Does have much better tech options though. Vlad2 Wolves will work, it's currently the only way to run the list to any degree of success into specific match ups, now that list will just be way better with something like 20 more points on the table than what can currently be done. There was a Strakhov1 Wolves list that got run at the WTC. Without any changes to the list, it is now 52 points. That's a pretty massive shift! Sorscha1 is a good shout: I already run her in Legion and she works well there, and Stationary + Berserk is a little bit filthy. |
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Post by auraco on Jan 14, 2019 14:30:41 GMT
Vlad2 Wolves will work, it's currently the only way to run the list to any degree of success into specific match ups, now that list will just be way better with something like 20 more points on the table than what can currently be done. There was a Strakhov1 Wolves list that got run at the WTC. Without any changes to the list, it is now 52 points. That's a pretty massive shift! Sorscha1 is a good shout: I already run her in Legion and she works well there, and Stationary + Berserk is a little bit filthy. Especially if they go live with the possibility of getting grevious wounds. Did the Strakhov1 list perform at the WTC? It's one thing to bring a list there, it's something else to have it perform. Strakhov1 could possibly be interesting in Wolves of winter, having his upkeep already in play on turn one means two jack get to run 12'' if you swap out superiority, the only thing is what jack do you take to trigger overrun? The ranged jack loadout is limited in wolves and I dislike having to rely on the feat get models to trigger overrun. I could see a list with 40 points of reavers/greylord and the rest in battlegroup point be interesting though. Strakhov1 quite likes the new ternion if they get to keep canker frost. |
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Post by hocestbellum on Jan 14, 2019 14:44:43 GMT
It lost every game! I was more highlighting it because it had stuck in my head; any list getting almost 1/3 cheaper is pretty significant.
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Post by auraco on Jan 14, 2019 14:52:06 GMT
Lol I'm not surprised, I think Strakhov1's feat is so terrible that it's best used as a control tool by not using it. Relying on it to deliver the army is just not very good.
Strakhov1's bread and butter is all about using overrun, so he always need at least one jack to reliably trigger it at range(so Behemoth or a Colossal) and more than one that like to move to get where needed thanks to that. Having access to puppet master might allow Strakhov1 in Wolves to get away with something like a destroyer. Also Strakhov1 really likes Ruin.
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Post by hocestbellum on Jan 14, 2019 15:33:08 GMT
Any feat with free charges and another bonus is not a bad feat for jacks. I always quite liked using it one turn later than people expect; the front lines have met, and suddenly you shoot off sideways and crush a flank.
And I quite like using Overrun as a pseudo-sprint to keep jacks a bit safer from retaliation.
I've not tried Strakhov with Ruin, but I can certainly see the appeal
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