2019: Year of the Jack

It's far better to be well-rounded. If you rely too much on one thing you'll leave yourself vulnerable to counters. Threat ranges are important, sure, but my Doom Reavers having a 17" threat under Strakhov is useless if my opponent has a 'no charge' feat, or a covering fire template.

Of the two I lean in a more counter-punch direction, simply because our high durability and large number of damage boosts make that much easier. But you should never skimp on threat projection, be that extra movement or simply decent ranged options.

It's also worth remembering, too, that you can alpha strike with casters like Zerkova and Sorscha1; they can't hit you first if they can't charge or shoot.

Looks ok, but you still have the some problems Karchev always has. You will still suffer against massed infantry, scenarios (few models, S0 helps here though) and control casters like Magnus2. And although Karchev is durable, he isn't impossibly hard to kill, even easier without a shield guard or dog, like in that list. I play Karchev a lot, and I've played similar lists.

S0 helps, no doubt, and kinda brings Karchevs old feat back (you can use the extra focus from the free charge to boost the charge attack). But consider dropping one jack and changing another to a Rager, to get a more well rounded list and keeping some focus on Karchev so he can be further up field and maybe scooring some points even, while still controlling his now far reaching jacks. I rearly ever get more then 2-3 jacks up the field with RtW anyway, and giving them 1-2 focus each is Karchevs (and S0) max.

I've tested lists with up to 8-9 jacks with Karchev, and found the best results have been achieved with 5 or sojacks, I still think that is the case, even with S0 the cheaper jacks don't cut it with Karchev imo. He can still fully support 5 jacks and 1 can be on S0. I'd even consider having a Forge Seer with a destroyer and only 4 jacks with Karchev. you got a few trade pieces and he can be the 2-3rd wave himself. The Bulldoz and extra 1 inch rng on the Spriggan also gives some more flexibility and unpredictability to your moves.

Maybe something like this?

War Room Army

Khador - Karchev

Theme: Jaws of the Wolf
3 / 3 Free Cards 74 / 75 Army 0 / 40 Specialist


Karchev the Terrible - WJ: +30
- War Dog - PC: 3
- Juggernaut - PC: 13 (Battlegroup Points Used: 13)
- Juggernaut - PC: 13 (Battlegroup Points Used: 13)
- Juggernaut - PC: 13 (Battlegroup Points Used: 4)
- Spriggan - PC: 17

Greylord Forge Seer - PC: 0
- Destroyer - PC: 14
Sorscha 0 - PC: 0
- Rager - PC: 10
Widowmaker Marksman - PC: 0

Kayazy Eliminators - Leader & Grunt: 5
Kayazy Eliminators - Leader & Grunt: 5
Widowmaker Scouts - Leader & 3 Grunts: 8
Battle Mechaniks - Leader & 3 Grunts: 3


THEME: Jaws of the Wolf
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GENERATED : 01/07/2019 12:26:28
BUILD ID : 2069.18-10-06

Not so big changes, and honestly, I've found his worst enemy to be the scenarios, because of the predictability of Khador jacks and your list above has strong game against a lot. I'm just showing the scissors to your paper above...all heil the messiah S0, we will have our due!

I don't play a lot of Karchev, but the answer to most of those problems would seem to be running him in WGK instead of Jaws? You lose out on some free points, but gain much better infantry clearing, mass 'shield guard', and advanced moves for most if not all of your jacks. And you'd still get S0 if you wanted, as well as having her count towards free points and synergising with your army a little.

A basic list I've been considering was this:

Khador Army - 74 / 75 points
[Theme] Winter Guard Kommand

[Karchev 1] Karchev the Terrible [+30]
- Juggernaut [13]
- Juggernaut [13]
- Kodiak [13]
- Marauder [11]
- Marauder [11]
Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich [4]
Winter Guard Infantry (max) [10]
- Winter Guard Infantry Officer & Standard [4]
- Winter Guard Rocketeer (3) [6]
Winter Guard Mortar Crew [0(5)]
Winter Guard Mortar Crew [0(5)]
Winter Guard Rifle Corps (max) [13]
- Winter Guard Rocketeer (3) [6]

Four advanced moves, 32 shield guards and RtW triggers, decent amount of sprays and blasts. It's in no way optimal; it's more based on models I have painted! I think it might be light on scoring solos, so perhaps dropping a couple of rockets for the Marksman would be good.