bluebeard
Junior Strategist
crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women
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Post by bluebeard on Dec 12, 2018 13:37:57 GMT
Oops, you care correct. My bad. I still believe Garryth 2 will bring many good strategies though.
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Post by elladan52 on Dec 12, 2018 13:47:20 GMT
Oops, you care correct. My bad. I still believe Garryth 2 will bring many good strategies though. In this, you are 100% correct. He will be a very interesting caster to play.
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matsif
BattleBox Champ
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Post by matsif on Dec 13, 2018 0:53:51 GMT
week 2: -gained prowl and added prowl to field marshal -lost overrun and shadow pack -gained chasten and road to war -perfect storm allows you to reroll attack rolls for 1 round so a straight nerf in overrun going to road to war, a roughly neutral change in losing shadow pack and gaining prowl and adding prowl to his field marshal since he's not eating 3 focus a turn anymore, and adding a situational and what will often be unused spell in chasten. note that as perfect storm is currently written, you can reroll spell attack rolls.
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Post by mcdermott on Dec 13, 2018 1:15:30 GMT
Seems like a buff TBH. This change reduces the amount of choice making he has to make in order to boost personal output.
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isotope
Junior Strategist
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New epic?
Dec 13, 2018 2:17:27 GMT
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Post by isotope on Dec 13, 2018 2:17:27 GMT
Overrun changing to road to war is upsetting. You cant send in a jack, kill it, have something else kill a single warrior model and back you jack up into safety anymore. 3" will make them safer but not as safe as 5-6" would have.
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Post by josephkerr on Dec 13, 2018 2:26:45 GMT
Overrun changing to road to war is upsetting. You cant send in a jack, kill it, have something else kill a single warrior model and back you jack up into safety anymore. 3" will make them safer but not as safe as 5-6" would have. Tbf its also a ton cheaper than Overrun and free with Sylyss
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New epic?
Dec 13, 2018 3:34:13 GMT
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Post by elladan52 on Dec 13, 2018 3:34:13 GMT
Yeah warpath is much better for the game, the long threat range was a little much. And being able to have a free upkeep means all his warjacks threaten far consistently, instead of realistically just 1.
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Post by josephkerr on Dec 13, 2018 4:02:25 GMT
There have been a lot of week1 lists overloading his battlegroup with banshees and afgs on the side and stuff. I hope some of the week2 reports take a more combined arms battlegroup with moros and one banshee and then some melee muscle like the sphinx or phoenix.
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germanicus
Junior Strategist
No jokes round ear...
Posts: 358
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Post by germanicus on Dec 13, 2018 5:10:34 GMT
Feels like a nerf, necessary in some ways, but gives even more of a feeling of 'someone else could run this list better'.
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isotope
Junior Strategist
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New epic?
Dec 13, 2018 7:01:43 GMT
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Post by isotope on Dec 13, 2018 7:01:43 GMT
Feels like a nerf, necessary in some ways, but gives even more of a feeling of 'someone else could run this list better'. That's what I've heard everyone say to me that ive asked about him.
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germanicus
Junior Strategist
No jokes round ear...
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Post by germanicus on Dec 13, 2018 8:19:42 GMT
Rapid Growth, anyone? Would make his FM a great deal more relevant and there's only so much you can get into a 4" AoE...
*shrug*
Or not, 'cos it isn't 'Garryth' enough...?
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Post by josephkerr on Dec 13, 2018 22:01:47 GMT
Soles has stated that giving him prowl means he will come with no way of gaining concealment built into his card.
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matsif
BattleBox Champ
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Post by matsif on Dec 14, 2018 0:19:34 GMT
massive changes
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germanicus
Junior Strategist
No jokes round ear...
Posts: 358
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Post by germanicus on Dec 14, 2018 4:53:05 GMT
+2" to control and Witch Mark are going to have a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge impact on how he plays, huh-damn!
I like the shot choices, but feel he ought to pay a Focus to do it 'cos his top of two feat pressure can be pretty big, but that AND aiming seems a bit much... (and combined with Spitfire means it'll be a right Focus drain). I don't think it's OP, 'cos he still needs to spend the Focus to land Mortality and has multiple upkeeps and needing to re-cast Mage Sight (contextually), but he feels above the curve (but let's face it, as a CID caster, he should).
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Post by deathbymelancholy on Dec 14, 2018 12:32:08 GMT
How does he have to spend focus to land mortality exactly? You either staple Sylys to him, and why not since with a 14 inch gun and repo 5 you are probably never going to need anything else, or you just Witchmark "the thing" and never have to worry about hitting it anyways. I don't see how he's not effectively removing heavies every turn by himself and two quality guns. Leaving you all the rest of your points for whatever. Sylys and G2 run themselves, Arcanists take care of warjacks, Profit?
Something, and I'm not sure where or what it is exactly, in this iteration makes him too good. But, as that appears to be the entire point of CID warlocks/warcasters I don't know that it is a "problem" per se'.
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