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Post by auraco on Dec 5, 2018 17:34:18 GMT
Ok, now I'm really excited by Alexia2, she can collect friendly souls now, this is big for us. She can collect the souls of the demo corps (who will die because, well... demo corps die) to craft thralls and send models contesting in an otherwise slow list. Soul collection also won't be a problem in Wolves of winter with the reavers dying in droves. I think she'll like caster who can help protect her, OW2, Sorscha1, Zerkova1. And with the adjunct taking sylys' place the merc spot is pretty much open for her now, well not now but when the CID goes live.
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Post by streetpizza on Dec 5, 2018 17:58:38 GMT
Ok, now I'm really excited by Alexia2, she can collect friendly souls now, this is big for us. She can collect the souls of the demo corps (who will die because, well... demo corps die) to craft thralls and send models contesting in an otherwise slow list. Soul collection also won't be a problem in Wolves of winter with the reavers dying in droves. I think she'll like caster who can help protect her, OW2, Sorscha1, Zerkova1. And with the adjunct taking sylys' place the merc spot is pretty much open for her now, well not now but when the CID goes live. Its a good change for everybody that can take her. Interested to see if she starts popping up in Cygnar as well.
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Post by Valcaro on Dec 5, 2018 18:37:33 GMT
Alexia2 now also mostly fixes the last glaring weakness of OW2, which made her almost impossible to play vs Issyria in an otherwise really decent matchup. I like that a lot.
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Post by hocestbellum on Dec 5, 2018 18:48:03 GMT
A much-warranted change to Irregulars, too. It'll still get taken loads; it's just too versatile not to be taken, but a slight nerf is fine by me.
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Post by fanguad on Dec 5, 2018 19:32:42 GMT
I was already seriously considering taking her in LoS to help with the Incorporeal problem. Actually having souls to work with will definitely make me want to try this.
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Post by sand20go on Dec 5, 2018 19:40:44 GMT
Salty about the mortar. Almost strictly better with the Rough Terrain plate. Consider that Not salty about the Cannon. Somehow the idea of getting a 4 dice POW 14 damage roll with Quake with Zepher sounds "fun" in an Irusk2 list. Sure it is 10 points. That is 10 points of AWESOME Windthrower could be an important solo in a lot of our armies as it provides a way of getting ride of cloud walls. Gunner is OP in a Rhulic Gun line (but see below - which I will soon post on. 5 Dice on Huge bases under Hotswapped FFE Really? !! But for REALLY a lot of fun consider this "Out of theme" S2 under feat with 2 of those Cannons and a Gunner is doing ON AVERAGE, 50 points of damage to a ARM 19 GarCol ;-)
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Post by tesoe on Dec 5, 2018 19:47:45 GMT
It's making me nostalgic for when I used to run Steelheads under Butcher2 in MKII.
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Post by michael on Dec 5, 2018 19:49:44 GMT
The change to Bulldoze effectively kills Harkevich’s last remaining scenario play niche, relegating him to true paperweight status.
Discuss.
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Post by sand20go on Dec 5, 2018 20:01:26 GMT
The change to Bulldoze effectively kills Harkevich’s last remaining scenario play niche, relegating him to true paperweight status. Discuss. I could not find the wording. Where is that?
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Post by welshhoppo on Dec 5, 2018 20:02:47 GMT
The change to Bulldoze effectively kills Harkevich’s last remaining scenario play niche, relegating him to true paperweight status. Discuss. But Kodiaks don't have bulldoze?
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Post by sand20go on Dec 5, 2018 20:02:55 GMT
The change to Bulldoze effectively kills Harkevich’s last remaining scenario play niche, relegating him to true paperweight status. Discuss. I could not find the wording. Where is that? Belay that - I found it under the theme wording and the nerf. It is worth posting about that.
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Post by auraco on Dec 5, 2018 20:31:49 GMT
Some of the stuff seems strong, but nothing is unreasonable to me, it's new options for merc and it doesn't really make Ossrum better (actually most of the changes are direct or side nerf to him). The artillery pieces are good, but nothing too over the top. They are also still very easy to kill like any artillery. I think we benefit more from the changes to Alexia2 than Cygnar does. She's now a very interesting option we can even casually feed her mechaniks souls ourselves now, this is a big change for armored corps. Her ability to pop solo than can end up very far from where she started also really help the scenario play of the list. I think I'll be including her in a lot of my Armored Corps and Wolves of Winter list once all the CID rules go live.
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Post by sand20go on Dec 5, 2018 20:37:04 GMT
Some of the stuff seems strong, but nothing is unreasonable to me, it's new options for merc and it doesn't really make Ossrum better (actually most of the changes are direct or side nerf to him). The artillery pieces are good, but nothing too over the top. They are also still very easy to kill like any artillery. I think we benefit more from the changes to Alexia2 than Cygnar does. She's now a very interesting option we can even casually feed her mechaniks souls ourselves now, this is a big change for armored corps. Her ability to pop solo than can end up very far from where she started also really help the scenario play of the list. I think I'll be including her in a lot of my Armored Corps and Wolves of Winter list once all the CID rules go live.
Completely disagree here. Ignore the Steelhead Artillary. It is Ossrum +40 points (little over as there is no good way to get to exactly 40 except for 4 min units of hammers.....(hmmmmm..) + Gunner+ 2 Horgren Artillery Corp and hot Swapping FFE.
Simple change - either require that Seige Engine JUST target Steelheads _OR_ make him non Rhullic.
Yes. Bulldoze nerf hurts his NPE scenario win. But he swaps that out for what can give his list troubles - a ton of boxes on a huge base to chew through once he loses a Driller.
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Post by michael on Dec 5, 2018 20:39:45 GMT
The change to Bulldoze effectively kills Harkevich’s last remaining scenario play niche, relegating him to true paperweight status. Discuss. I could not find the wording. Where is that? In the rules post, not in the PDF. The change to Bulldoze effectively kills Harkevich’s last remaining scenario play niche, relegating him to true paperweight status. Discuss. But Kodiaks don't have bulldoze? Nope!
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Post by michael on Dec 5, 2018 20:41:01 GMT
And, sadly, Pagani says the collateral damage to other models is intentional and worth it for reigning in Axis and Ossrum.
Also, cue Ohlmann being an anti-Khador asshat in CID in 3, 2, 1...
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