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Post by Kriegsspiele on Nov 29, 2018 9:05:51 GMT
Themes made WMH super spammy and bloated generally. It's a fact. There have almost always been spammy lists, but as expected in 2016, spam is the rule of MK3, more or less balanced lists are an exception. And when looking at the current CID, there's even more spam to come...
To get back OT: S0 might bring B3 back in a way he doesn't need the extra points and rules from themes, bringing list building and fun back to WMH. That's why I'm looking forward to the release. But when looking at the massive power creep by new models, themes, CID, I'm not very confident.
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Post by Havock on Dec 5, 2018 2:03:24 GMT
It's why I am having a lot of fun with CG at the moment: Magnum Opus allows for varied lists that actually work, it feels like a mk2 army, some jacks, some dudes, some pew-pew, some hammers-to-be-introduced-to-face...
I get the feeling S0 will see more B3 in WGK, a unit of WG to take shots for Butcher, some mortars for crowd control and to provide more Advance Move and then just take a bunch of 'jacks and have them AM so they are faster there and even moreso with S0.
At least, that's what I would do.
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Post by auraco on Dec 5, 2018 3:03:45 GMT
Don't forget the fun carriage in there. It's already great before even considering boundless charge, with it, it can threat a big part of the board. I've already have this variant of my current B3 WGK list that I want to try: conflictchamber.com/#c3201b_-0fdIkWeQnjlO7p8t8rgc7S7T7W7-i6Khador Army - 74 / 75 points [Theme] Winter Guard Kommand !!! Your army contains CID entries. [Butcher 3] Kommander Zoktavir, the Butcher Unleashed [+22] - Juggernaut [13] - Ruin [17] - Greylord Adjunct [4] Kovnik Apprentice Kratikoff [4] - Destroyer [14] Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich [4] Widowmaker Marksman [4] Winter Guard Artillery Kapitan [3] Winter Guard Infantry (max) [10] - Winter Guard Infantry Officer & Standard [0(4)] - Winter Guard Rocketeer (3) [6] Winter Guard Mortar Crew [0(5)] Winter Guard Gun Carriage [17]
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Post by thebuoyancyofwater on Dec 5, 2018 4:42:42 GMT
She also works great with Old Witch 1 in WGK. I think the greylord adjunct will further improve that too.
Cheers, Dave
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Post by auraco on Dec 5, 2018 13:15:40 GMT
Sorscha0 and the Adjunct will greatly improve the quality of life of being a khador player, they solve so many issues.
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Post by michael on Dec 5, 2018 13:19:42 GMT
She also works great with Old Witch 1 in WGK. I think the greylord adjunct will further improve that too. Cheers, Dave Personally, I would prefer OW1 to be good on her own without needing ~20 points of models to prop her up. : p
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Post by hocestbellum on Dec 5, 2018 14:13:55 GMT
She's got some great tools, she just doesn't play well with any of the current themes. Although I reckon there's scope for some good Armoured Corps plays with her, as they love Iron Flesh and Pathfinder, and her anti-infantry abilities play well into an area AC can sometime struggle. And there's always the possibility of a cheeky gallows to bring something into Demo range!
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Post by Mr.Human on Dec 5, 2018 21:23:00 GMT
Sorscha0 and the Adjunct will greatly improve the quality of life of being a khador player, they solve so many issues. If it only wouldn´t take so damn long for them to release her.
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Post by anderfreak on Dec 5, 2018 21:30:17 GMT
She also works great with Old Witch 1 in WGK. I think the greylord adjunct will further improve that too. Cheers, Dave Personally, I would prefer OW1 to be good on her own without needing ~20 points of models to prop her up. : p I'd love it if Irusk1 was good on his own without needing 102 points of models to back him up. I'd field that army.
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Post by michael on Dec 5, 2018 23:57:05 GMT
I'd love it if Irusk1 was good on his own without needing 102 points of models to back him up. I'd field that army.
I am legitimately confused. Are you saying Irusk1 is bad?
He's got some very strong Winter Guard Kommand and Armored Corps lists.
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Post by hocestbellum on Dec 6, 2018 0:50:12 GMT
At the risk of ruining it by explaining the joke, he's saying that Irusk1 isn't very good without an army
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Post by michael on Dec 6, 2018 1:15:21 GMT
At the risk of ruining it by explaining the joke, he's saying that Irusk1 isn't very good without an army Ah.
....but Old Witch 1 isn't very good even with an army. So...uh...?
Maybe I just didn't get it.
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Post by hocestbellum on Dec 6, 2018 10:05:01 GMT
Well, I'm not going to dissect it any further.
I stand by my belief that OW1 is one of those casters made bad by themes, not rules, though.
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Post by anderfreak on Dec 6, 2018 16:30:32 GMT
At the risk of ruining it by explaining the joke, he's saying that Irusk1 isn't very good without an army Ah.
....but Old Witch 1 isn't very good even with an army. So...uh...?
Maybe I just didn't get it.
I was just making a joke. Hot damn.
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Post by michael on Dec 6, 2018 19:40:42 GMT
I was just making a joke. Hot damn. It clearly flew over my head!
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