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Post by tybork on Nov 19, 2018 22:03:48 GMT
Stupid me, i forgot to add the number at my solo. I own 2 forsaken, 3 Shepherd and 3 Martyr. Well with a bit of green stuff and time i can switch the 2° angelius to a 2° neraph if the change is very necessary.
I don't like the "Gargoyle" of the Ravens Theme and i'm very much doubtful to play only Strider and Raptor, maybe its better play Oracle and/or Children? In the future ill'try purchasing Ogre and play Terror. So i can choose the best two Theme to play for my taste.
For the future i have in my mind a purchase list for the Legion models that i don't own but such as Warmachine with Mercenaries in Hordes there are the Minions right? I know the utility of the Bog Mist Speeker but there are other units/solo minions very useful for Legion?
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Post by piedpiperwtf on Nov 20, 2018 15:09:15 GMT
Ok i have my army, for the moment i have purchased at PP and a second hand army for a very good price. Now i own these models: Warlock: Thag 1,2 Vayl 1,2 Fyanna 2 Lylyth 1,2 Kryssa Warbeast: 3 Heavy with magnets (Carnivean, Ravagore and Scythean) Zuriel Azrael 2 Angelius 2 Seraph 1 Neraph 1 Raek 1 Naga 2 Bolt thrower 1 Nephilim Bloodseer 1 Typhon Units: Swordmens+UA Raptors Hex Hunters+UA Hellmouth Blightblades Ice Witch Blackfrost Solo: Martyr Forsaken Sheperd Warlord Nyss Craelix Anyssa Succubus Sorcerer+Hellion I know, i know no Ogre! The big boys are on my shopping list for the future, for now i want play without them. Another couple of questions: 1)I have missed some models i need absolutely? 2)Tips for Legions vs Khador (my game partner only has that army)? You definitely have a CotD army available. Zuriel, Azreal, the Boltthrowers, Bloodseer, Swordsmen, Raptors, Hex Hunters, Ice Witches, Black Frost Shard, Spell Martyr, Shepherd, Nyss Warlord, Craelix, Anyssa, Succubus, and Sorceress on Hellion all fit within Children of the Dragon. I would recommend playing Thags1 in that theme. He can bring Typhon, meaning you can have 3 character beasts all in one army. Hex Hunters will love Fog of War, and they'll like the bloodseer if you take him. You'll want the shepherd and the spellmartyr with him more than likely, and the succubus is nice to have. Azreal will take to Draconic Blessing well. I would add in a sorceress on hellion, as it will let Azreal, Zuriel, and the Bloodseer all charge for free. All of those models add up to 66 points. To finish it off, I would add in your Ice Witches, and try to grab a couple more shepherds/spell martyrs (2 to be exact). You've got two free cards, one of which should definitely go to Bayal (he's six points). The other you could use to take either Craelix, or the Nyss Warlord. As for fighting Khador, you will threaten farther no matter what. Khador is too slow for you to not threaten farther. You can hug their threat ranges no problem. Your issue is going to be cracking armor. They're tough. In CotD, you're going to have mixed results. Azreal, Zuriel, and Typhon all hit hard, but they're only 3 warbeasts. Hex Hunters aren't going to do much, but with Bayal they can shadow-bind things and potentially buy you an extra turn. If you find that Hex Hunters just don't have their use against Khador, you could swap them out for the swordsmen, which are weapon master, and good at cracking armor. Craelix isn't going to help you too much, unfortunately. The Nyss Warlord will take some stuff down (or at least put a dent in it), as its a weapon master with straight decapitation. Legion doesn't really do attrition too well (though Thagrosh is the best one to do it with), and will utterly fail no matter what against Khador. You're going to need to go for assassination somehow. Alternatively, you could take Fyanna in Oracle of Annihilation and slap all your warbeasts down in an army and call it a day, taking the free models you want (definitely a forsaken and the Sorceress on Hellion). Fyanna + Angellii are great at cracking armor, and against Khador, Fyanna's feat could potentially buy you a second alpha strike. I wish you had two neraphs and one seraph instead of one neraph and two seraphs, but oh well. She will like the Raek and Naga as well. . My local Khador player out threats my army in every possible way, tons of winterguards, 9 rocketeers,2 mortar crews, and I believe +5 speed to Jack's. Can't remember what Vlad version he plays off the top of my head though.
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Post by voidbender on Nov 20, 2018 16:23:12 GMT
Yeah, that would be Vlad1. He will shoot you before you get to his force, and has speed 8 jacks on his feat turn which can threaten up to 15" with boundless charge.
Khador has low base speeds, but almost always has an accelerator. Legion lists tend to be more mobile for larger periods of the game, but it is far from guaranteed.
Legion can build to out-threat their fastest lists, but in my experience that will be a strongly skewed assassination list like Lylyth3, a Seraph, and Angelii.
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Post by davycannonhound on Nov 21, 2018 16:26:54 GMT
Stupid me, i forgot to add the number at my solo. I own 2 forsaken, 3 Shepherd and 3 Martyr. Well with a bit of green stuff and time i can switch the 2° angelius to a 2° neraph if the change is very necessary. I don't like the "Gargoyle" of the Ravens Theme and i'm very much doubtful to play only Strider and Raptor, maybe its better play Oracle and/or Children? In the future ill'try purchasing Ogre and play Terror. So i can choose the best two Theme to play for my taste. For the future i have in my mind a purchase list for the Legion models that i don't own but such as Warmachine with Mercenaries in Hordes there are the Minions right? I know the utility of the Bog Mist Speeker but there are other units/solo minions very useful for Legion? Angelius are quite good (at least with Fyanna), you’re just going to want to swap the second Seraph for a Neraph. If you have a lot of fire attacks you might want the croak raiders (I think its them). They have oil they can put out to boost damage. The Boil Master and Spirit Cauldron can pump up a soawning vessel.
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Post by davycannonhound on Nov 21, 2018 16:28:49 GMT
You definitely have a CotD army available. Zuriel, Azreal, the Boltthrowers, Bloodseer, Swordsmen, Raptors, Hex Hunters, Ice Witches, Black Frost Shard, Spell Martyr, Shepherd, Nyss Warlord, Craelix, Anyssa, Succubus, and Sorceress on Hellion all fit within Children of the Dragon. I would recommend playing Thags1 in that theme. He can bring Typhon, meaning you can have 3 character beasts all in one army. Hex Hunters will love Fog of War, and they'll like the bloodseer if you take him. You'll want the shepherd and the spellmartyr with him more than likely, and the succubus is nice to have. Azreal will take to Draconic Blessing well. I would add in a sorceress on hellion, as it will let Azreal, Zuriel, and the Bloodseer all charge for free. All of those models add up to 66 points. To finish it off, I would add in your Ice Witches, and try to grab a couple more shepherds/spell martyrs (2 to be exact). You've got two free cards, one of which should definitely go to Bayal (he's six points). The other you could use to take either Craelix, or the Nyss Warlord. As for fighting Khador, you will threaten farther no matter what. Khador is too slow for you to not threaten farther. You can hug their threat ranges no problem. Your issue is going to be cracking armor. They're tough. In CotD, you're going to have mixed results. Azreal, Zuriel, and Typhon all hit hard, but they're only 3 warbeasts. Hex Hunters aren't going to do much, but with Bayal they can shadow-bind things and potentially buy you an extra turn. If you find that Hex Hunters just don't have their use against Khador, you could swap them out for the swordsmen, which are weapon master, and good at cracking armor. Craelix isn't going to help you too much, unfortunately. The Nyss Warlord will take some stuff down (or at least put a dent in it), as its a weapon master with straight decapitation. Legion doesn't really do attrition too well (though Thagrosh is the best one to do it with), and will utterly fail no matter what against Khador. You're going to need to go for assassination somehow. Alternatively, you could take Fyanna in Oracle of Annihilation and slap all your warbeasts down in an army and call it a day, taking the free models you want (definitely a forsaken and the Sorceress on Hellion). Fyanna + Angellii are great at cracking armor, and against Khador, Fyanna's feat could potentially buy you a second alpha strike. I wish you had two neraphs and one seraph instead of one neraph and two seraphs, but oh well. She will like the Raek and Naga as well. . My local Khador player out threats my army in every possible way, tons of winterguards, 9 rocketeers,2 mortar crews, and I believe +5 speed to Jack's. Can't remember what Vlad version he plays off the top of my head though. Unless you play in Terrors and DONT have a Seraph, I can’t see how. Sure they have guns but you should too, and yours should be faster. Maybe there’s something I’m not seeing.
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