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Post by jisidro on Oct 26, 2018 18:47:45 GMT
I can't check all the changes but according to the insider...
- Trackers didn't get parry and even Nuala lost it
- Riphorn got bulldoze base and retaliatory strike as animus
- Flying high reduced to 3" and applied to archangel as well
Rest as last version afaik
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Post by jisidro on Oct 26, 2018 18:49:45 GMT
Oh.. Forgot...
Secret Masters can take any number of minion unit and solos!
Nothing much...
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Post by Trollock on Oct 26, 2018 18:51:22 GMT
Noooo! My broken bloodtrackers! Probably not bad they didnt get the parry though. It will surely be missed, but it was probably over the top.
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Post by Trollock on Oct 26, 2018 19:09:33 GMT
No reposition on bloodpack...
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Post by Trollock on Oct 26, 2018 19:12:16 GMT
LotF only range 1 in melee
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Post by bloodhawk on Oct 26, 2018 19:32:20 GMT
I missed the Parry and LOTF reach change on my initial viewing. Overall I think the changes turned out pretty well. I am a bit disappointed that Bloodpack lost repo3 and that LOTF lost reach 2, but I think both are certainly playable in their final state. I was excited to see the tweak to the Riphorn, I think that is pretty solid. I also am happy the Storm Raptor made it through relatively unscathed. Curious to see how he plays.
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Post by punk on Oct 26, 2018 19:33:53 GMT
LotF only range 1 in melee Blood Reaper can really let the Lord of the Feast threaten a wide variety of targets...
Prob an oversight that I hope to be corrected.
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Post by Trollock on Oct 26, 2018 19:49:13 GMT
Ravager shaman 4 points is a buff though
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Post by Trollock on Oct 26, 2018 19:52:05 GMT
Wolf riders and champion only DEF 14.
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Post by Trollock on Oct 26, 2018 20:26:09 GMT
Wolf riders and champion MAT 6/7 rather than 7/8.
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Post by frumiousbandersnatch on Oct 26, 2018 20:32:19 GMT
LotF only range 1 in melee Blood Reaper can really let the Lord of the Feast threaten a wide variety of targets...
Prob an oversight that I hope to be corrected. Pretty sad about Lord of the Feast, honestly. That small change actually completely changes more or less all the playtesting I did with him. It was probably the most relevant change he received other than blood reaper. He certainly won't be able to make much use of Blood Reaper or get those corpse tokens very easily anymore, alas. Though it will probably be okay. The last game I played had Lord of the Feast way overperforming (especially for a free model). Also, I would not count on it. PP's dev notes are often just kind of meaningless or have not connection to what the rule is actually useful for. Even if you assume a 2" melee range Blood Reaper in no way allows LotF to change the quality or type of attacks he makes. Blood Reaper doesn't make him more (or less) threatening against harder targets (the notes give warcasters as an example). It just allows him to make attacks against a higher number of models. It doesn't make those attacks more threatening based on the type of model being attacked. Pretty much everything came through more or less the same, though. Lots of small nerfs, lost rules, or tweaked down stats, but no models were radically changed from the last week of CID (besides arguably bloodtrackers. Parry was a big deal on them). The only model to really benefit much was the Riphorn and he seems okay.
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Post by oncomingstorm on Oct 26, 2018 21:42:19 GMT
0 interest in playing wolf riders at Mat 6 Def 14. just...no interest whatsoever.
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Post by punk on Oct 26, 2018 22:11:41 GMT
To gain a pip in spd and lose 1" melee seems wonky.
I stil believe LoTF is oversight
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Post by bloodhawk on Oct 26, 2018 23:08:03 GMT
To gain a pip in spd and lose 1" melee seems wonky. I stil believe LoTF is oversight I mean, obviously mistakes happen, but there are lots of changes and so I think our assumption has to be that what we see is accurate until told otherwise. I am very confident this is intended.
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Post by bloodhawk on Oct 26, 2018 23:09:22 GMT
0 interest in playing wolf riders at Mat 6 Def 14. just...no interest whatsoever. Agreed. They were riding the line already at 18 points as they compared unfavorably to almost everything else in the theme in the role they fill. Now they fill that role less well. Maybe they will find a niche spot, but I feel confident saying they won't be mainstream.
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