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Post by mydnight on Oct 25, 2018 22:54:55 GMT
So, the new Minion Croak Jr can create 2 clouds a turn and we can bring him. Combined with the northkin shamans in PoD, seems we can get a cloudwall without Kolgrimma. Is this worth considering? The minimum cost for the Jr is 4+5 for the bullsnapper. I am thinking that a caster like calandra really benefits from the clouds.
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Post by Trollock on Oct 26, 2018 0:51:44 GMT
Where can i find the rules?
Edit: found it on chain-attack.
Im gonna go out on a limb and say that this will only see play in minions due to faction restrictions. Had it not made swamp trolls in to minions, then perhaps.
Paying 9 points for two clouds is not something id do thouh, and a bullsnapper is virtually useless in a troll army. Id want something ranged, but a bullsnapper with no access to rage is bad, and having both a wrastle and a bullsnapper is way too expensive.
He will sure see play in will work for food though...
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Post by moridamn on Oct 26, 2018 2:33:23 GMT
I'd rather take just a wrestler than a bullsnapper, but I agree that he would be expensive for us to take. A single bullsnapper is only fury2, so you won't be spamming double clouds with that.
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Post by mydnight on Oct 26, 2018 2:38:52 GMT
I'd rather take just a wrestler than a bullsnapper, but I agree that he would be expensive for us to take. A single bullsnapper is only fury2, so you won't be spamming double clouds with that. Good point! And I don't think he's worth it with a wrastler or spitter so I guess he's going to be primarily a minions thing. Edit: what happens if Grim1 wants a dracodile?  |
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Post by mazog on Oct 26, 2018 3:12:50 GMT
I think Kolgrimma might like the Dracodile, or vice versa. She strips Pathfinder with the feat, then big D floods the table. Also, cursed fate probably makes it a happy gator.
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Post by Arcaux on Oct 26, 2018 7:55:08 GMT
Wonder if the Swamp troll will enter CID...?
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Post by mydnight on Oct 26, 2018 8:39:45 GMT
The model will be released on warmachine weekend with no cid.
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Post by Arcaux on Oct 26, 2018 9:41:57 GMT
The model will be released on warmachine weekend with no cid. They are so frustratingly inconsistent.
Everything will go through CID, except something won't. With no explanation.
I know they work very hard, but it comes off as unprofessional and slapdash, when they consistently change things, because they haven't set aside resources correctly or efficiently managed their time.
12 Factions of Christmas is another great example.
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Post by voltron on Oct 26, 2018 21:40:43 GMT
I've been struggling making Calandra lists, and I feel like he could relieve some of my hesitation to put her on the table. Maybe something like this:
Calandra (POD)
-Runebearer (free)
-Mulg
-Mauler
-EBDT X2
-Swamp Troll
Shaman x2 (free)
Underchief Mire
-Swamp Troll
Krielstone + Elder
Bone Grinders
It still feels a little uninspiring though.
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Post by mydnight on Oct 26, 2018 23:49:12 GMT
Not sure if you need Bone Grinders since you have mulg and runebearer already? You can then upgrade 1 EBDT into a bomber. Maybe drop 1 shaman for janissa given you already have 3 clouds ...
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Post by macdaddy on Oct 29, 2018 4:02:17 GMT
Wonder if the Swamp troll will enter CID...? I mean other than a possible points reduction does it need one? |
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Post by Arcaux on Oct 29, 2018 9:44:09 GMT
Wonder if the Swamp troll will enter CID...? I mean other than a possible points reduction does it need one? I kind of just wish swarm worked better.
Like if it could trigger it's animus for free if it kills a models or reducing the cost of swarm to 1 (I know that would have knock on consequences.)
That or give it AD.
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Post by mazog on Oct 29, 2018 11:44:01 GMT
I mean other than a possible points reduction does it need one? I kind of just wish swarm worked better.
Like if it could trigger it's animus for free if it kills a models or reducing the cost of swarm to 1 (I know that would have knock on consequences.)
That or give it AD.
It seems a little odd how swarm is one of the few 2 cost self animi left in the game, but given that it is an area effect hit debuff, even if it is conditional, I have, by and large, made my peace, mostly, with it. I love those guys (I bought two when I started playing the game because the rules and fluff were so entertaining) but I hardly play them outside B2, as it is just very hard to get any work out of them in addition to getting the animus off. Blood boon (just on the tongue?) would be nifty, though. Or at least something to represent that it just ate somebody when the tongue gets a kill or the critical consume. |
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Post by deathbymelancholy on Oct 29, 2018 12:01:37 GMT
I played around with him in a few list builds last weekend. He doesn't really gel very well. I don't see how he takes that slow from Lanyssa or Mist Speaker. (or in my case Pendrake and Alten because I love my mini-crate sculpts so much  ). |
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