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Post by Charistoph on Nov 8, 2018 4:10:17 GMT
Well, lately at any rate.
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Xintas
Junior Strategist
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Post by Xintas on Nov 8, 2018 14:17:59 GMT
ITS NOT JUST A PHASE, DAD!
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Post by ComboSmiteNick on Nov 21, 2018 1:55:31 GMT
I'm kinda sad that these forums are so dead lately.
Facebook has dominated the WM community for a while now but it's such a terrible format for normal WM discussion.
What really confuses me is the popularity of Discord. Everytime I go on there it's like someone took the a page worth of FB posts and just posted all the comments from them in sequential order. There seem to be conversations all over the place and I can't follow any of it.
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granor
Junior Strategist
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Post by granor on Nov 26, 2018 14:12:57 GMT
How do you get into the discord discussion?> I was unable to make heads or tails of the app
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Post by marxlives on Nov 26, 2018 16:32:39 GMT
I've never heard of 'negative' for Lormahordes but that may be from lack of going anywhere else (I came, I liked, I stayed). I can say that I follow my faction's facebook page but I RARELY post anything. From my experience there, it is more toxic than the PP boards could ever be. I understand why PP would encourage activity there (free exposure/networking) but it provides very little value to me. I'll look into Discord though. I agree, that is why try to reference this site on our local group page and anywhere else. I would honestly like to see more people get onto the Loremahordes forum, so I name drop it when I can. Every little bit helps.
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juckto
Junior Strategist
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Post by juckto on Nov 26, 2018 18:16:05 GMT
How do you get into the discord discussion?> I was unable to make heads or tails of the app You get an invite to the server. The server has sub channels, one per faction etc. You can only post in the newb channel until you read the rules. Once you're in, it's a live chat room with everything that entails in terms of content and structure. discord.gg/SN7fZN
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matsif
BattleBox Champ
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Post by matsif on Nov 26, 2018 19:22:50 GMT
What really confuses me is the popularity of Discord. Everytime I go on there it's like someone took the a page worth of FB posts and just posted all the comments from them in sequential order. There seem to be conversations all over the place and I can't follow any of it. on the other hand, a lot of people I know don't come to old-school forums like this anymore because the websites tend to run like hot garbage on mobile browsers, they aren't technically adept enough to get an ad blocker on their phone to get rid of those annoyances, and the convenience of something like a discord or reddit or facebook mobile application that runs on the same tablet or phone they use war room on is much better than having to go into the mobile browser, go to the loremahordes website, and then having to manually touchscreen their way into small links for subforums and then into small links for threads and then into small links for thread pages. I like the old school forum format a lot more than discord's chat room format as well, but this forum is on a mediocre hosting service at best with an ad-filled forum provider that has little to no mobile optimization. I can't fault the mobile-savvy demographic we live in during this modern age for preferring discord or facebook or other means that are simply more mobile-friendly, especially when the game pushes you at every opportunity to use a mobile device to play anyways (war room), and even when the ability to have a text-based conversation is harder to actually follow. this place would probably do a lot better if it wasn't hosted by freeforums and instead was on its own server with its own phpbb or proboards or some other implementation for the forum itself. I get the "free" part of freeforums is appealing, but when your website runs like a dumpster fire and shoves ads the size of half a phone screen at you, along with lacking some mobile optimizations and QOL things, it's not exactly going to attract anyone who isn't used to the mid-2000s forum browsing ideals a bunch of us here probably grew up on.
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Post by deathbymelancholy on Nov 26, 2018 20:36:21 GMT
Although, I did buy a Guild Polara that came up in one of those ad boxes. So it's not all for nought. (I'm so weak).
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Post by Soul Samurai on Nov 27, 2018 6:00:58 GMT
this place would probably do a lot better if it wasn't hosted by freeforums and instead was on its own server with its own phpbb or proboards or some other implementation for the forum itself. I get the "free" part of freeforums is appealing, but when your website runs like a dumpster fire and shoves ads the size of half a phone screen at you, along with lacking some mobile optimizations and QOL things, it's not exactly going to attract anyone who isn't used to the mid-2000s forum browsing ideals a bunch of us here probably grew up on. Strange. This forums works fine on my phone (and I don't have any ad blockers installed or anything like that), and is much better in many ways than the PP forums both on my phone and on my desktop. Actually, it works better on my phone than just about any forum that I normally visit. I don't really know why my experience has been so different from yours.
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Post by Gamingdevil on Nov 27, 2018 6:45:32 GMT
this place would probably do a lot better if it wasn't hosted by freeforums and instead was on its own server with its own phpbb or proboards or some other implementation for the forum itself. I get the "free" part of freeforums is appealing, but when your website runs like a dumpster fire and shoves ads the size of half a phone screen at you, along with lacking some mobile optimizations and QOL things, it's not exactly going to attract anyone who isn't used to the mid-2000s forum browsing ideals a bunch of us here probably grew up on. Strange. This forums works fine on my phone (and I don't have any ad blockers installed or anything like that), and is much better in many ways than the PP forums both on my phone and on my desktop. Actually, it works better on my phone than just about any forum that I normally visit. I don't really know why my experience has been so different from yours. I deliberately turned off my add blocker on the desktop and it's just a banner at the top and bottom. Slightly annoying, but a price I'm willing to pay for using these forums. The adds don't bother me on mobile, though I use Brave, which has a built-in add blocker, but it's painfully obvious that the site isn't optimized for mobile and you have to zoom to be able to click most of the buttons. But, it's definitely not as bad for me as apparently for matsif
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Post by Soul Samurai on Nov 27, 2018 7:26:43 GMT
Perhaps he has it set to "desktop" mode? In the past that has happened to me and I've wondered why things were so awkward until I realised I had it set wrong. I don't remember how it got that way; once or twice it was deliberate as you can't access the same editing tools in mobile mode, but I think it's happened by accident once or twice too.
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Post by Cryptix on Nov 27, 2018 9:19:21 GMT
There is a recurring problem with Firetrucking popup ads, but they're rare and easy to get out of.
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matsif
BattleBox Champ
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Post by matsif on Nov 27, 2018 12:30:43 GMT
Perhaps he has it set to "desktop" mode? In the past that has happened to me and I've wondered why things were so awkward until I realised I had it set wrong. I don't remember how it got that way; once or twice it was deliberate as you can't access the same editing tools in mobile mode, but I think it's happened by accident once or twice too. I just used a different phone (mine's doctored up for ad blocking and other things), just stock android with stock mobile chrome. so unless the site defaults to a desktop mode (it doesn't, I checked), this was with whatever mobile defaults there are. effectively mirroring what a fellow player at my LGS experienced when I tried to get him to come here on his phone after our game last week. I had a "banner ad" (I have to use that loosely because of the ad size) that took up half the screen once I got to the main subforum home page. and after misclicking on the wrong thread in this subforum on accident, I had to hit the back button about a dozen times before the browser would return to the core subforum to get into this thread (all it did was cycle the banner ad for a bunch of tries), only then to get met with my page being transferred to an off-site ad that the browser wouldn't let me back out of that felt like malware. it was at that point that I closed the tab of the phone browser and sat down at my computer to type this post. I'm not saying the site is unusable on mobile by any means. there's plenty of older forums that run like hot garbage too, and plenty of those are worse than this. on my phone it's nowhere near that bad because I have ad blocking and other things installed to prevent all of that. my point is that the annoyance factor of the above doesn't exist with various purpose-built mobile applications like discord, while I have to know my way around some tech things to get ad blocking and other things on a phone to stop the aforementioned crap from happening. ---------- regardless of how the site runs on mobile or not, old-school forums like this are exactly that: old. they're good for a lot of things and I wish they'd be more popular again, but the format simply doesn't work as nicely for casual conversation and quick question answering, especially on mobile devices. facebook, reddit, and discord all do that much better than a traditional forum like this does, and that's where things are moving to. I'm an admin for a couple of video game communities, and their forums are entirely dead compared to their discord servers, and the same amount and level of content as the old forums is discussed there as the forums used to harbor. sure it's harder to follow because things aren't compartmentalized as much as distinct subforums with distinct discussion threads, but the convenience of having your VoIP server and text conversation server in a singular, mobile optimized app outweighs the capacity for stronger separated discussions for most people nowadays. it's not 2006 anymore, and ye olde forum browsing evolved into things like reddit and now discord. forums like this are a relic of a past era of the internet, and frankly the fact that these forums seem slow and unpopulated shouldn't surprise anyone who's dealt with internet communities in the past 5-ish years.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Nov 27, 2018 13:15:12 GMT
I just used a different phone (mine's doctored up for ad blocking and other things), just stock android with stock mobile chrome. so unless the site defaults to a desktop mode (it doesn't, I checked), this was with whatever mobile defaults there are. effectively mirroring what a fellow player at my LGS experienced when I tried to get him to come here on his phone after our game last week. I had a "banner ad" (I have to use that loosely because of the ad size) that took up half the screen once I got to the main subforum home page. and after misclicking on the wrong thread in this subforum on accident, I had to hit the back button about a dozen times before the browser would return to the core subforum to get into this thread (all it did was cycle the banner ad for a bunch of tries), only then to get met with my page being transferred to an off-site ad that the browser wouldn't let me back out of that felt like malware. Wow, that's bad. No wonder you're down on it; I would have been yelling at the walls if that happened to me! Somehow though that does not match my usual experience with this forum (other than the banner ad; it takes 1/3 of my screen but is easily scrolled past and does not cause me any grief - I'd actually forgotten it was there even though I visit this forum about a dozen times a day on my phone). Personally though I've gotten into the habit of closing tabs when I'm finished reading a thread and just opening the main page again in a new tab if there was any other forum I wanted to check. That's probably not the "standard" or intended way of using this kind of platform, it's just what works for me. Also I dislike installing apps for something that can be done through the browser; feels simpler to me to have a single entry point and a consistent interface than to have to install software for each specific website that I want to use. it's not 2006 anymore, and ye olde forum browsing evolved into things like reddit and now discord. forums like this are a relic of a past era of the internet, and frankly the fact that these forums seem slow and unpopulated shouldn't surprise anyone who's dealt with internet communities in the past 5-ish years. I guess I'm old-fashioned by internet standards (well, to be honest I'm old-fashioned by a lot of standards... like the whole "browser rather than apps" thing...), because I find this sort of forum far clearer to understand and easier to use than something like Reddit. Personal taste is all. It's a shame that such a thing fragments our community. I wonder if there's some way to get the best of both worlds; an interface that's comfortable for both groups?
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Post by Gamingdevil on Nov 27, 2018 13:18:21 GMT
I wonder if there's some way to get the best of both worlds; an interface that's comfortable for both groups? Maybe Privateer Press could commission a responsive web forum that has a Facebook-like discussion group and integrated voice chat? /s
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