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Post by octaviusmaximus on Oct 6, 2018 0:31:43 GMT
CG seem fine. Most of the faction is playable.
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Post by sand20go on Oct 6, 2018 0:49:29 GMT
To anyone struggling vs CG i would suggest you "Git Gud" because they're a good faction but they aren't meta crushing gods. I wouldn't even say they're above the curve I don't want to be that guy but who the heck are you? I can tell you in the hands of a decent pilot (a guy who went 5-1 at WTC) they are.....as he is consistently crushing other "git gud" players who routinely win con master events.
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Post by octaviusmaximus on Oct 6, 2018 0:51:19 GMT
To anyone struggling vs CG i would suggest you "Git Gud" because they're a good faction but they aren't meta crushing gods. I wouldn't even say they're above the curve I don't want to be that guy but who the heck are you? I can tell you in the hands of a decent pilot (a guy who went 5-1 at WTC) they are.....as he is consistently crushing other "git gud" players who routinely win con master events. I can see where he's coming from. There is a lot of hyperbole and conspiracy running around recently.
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Post by challenger on Oct 6, 2018 1:03:43 GMT
To anyone struggling vs CG i would suggest you "Git Gud" because they're a good faction but they aren't meta crushing gods. I wouldn't even say they're above the curve I don't want to be that guy but who the heck are you? I can tell you in the hands of a decent pilot (a guy who went 5-1 at WTC) they are.....as he is consistently crushing other "git gud" players who routinely win con master events. like i said, they're a good faction. a strong player will win with them. your example of a strong player doing well with a good faction doesn't prove anything. Chris davies went 5-1 at WTC with khador i believe and routinely crushes people with them too. is khador some terrifying meta crushing faction? no. its a good faction though! all this CG hyperbole seems genuinely like you just need to adapt and learn to play vs them. you did nothing to disprove my point
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Post by Korianneder on Oct 6, 2018 2:05:27 GMT
To anyone struggling vs CG i would suggest you "Git Gud" because they're a good faction but they aren't meta crushing gods. I wouldn't even say they're above the curve I don't want to be that guy but who the heck are you? I can tell you in the hands of a decent pilot (a guy who went 5-1 at WTC) they are.....as he is consistently crushing other "git gud" players who routinely win con master events. Does it even matter what Juris plays? You've been complaining about his lists beating you for the better part of two editions.
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Post by sand20go on Oct 6, 2018 4:05:36 GMT
I don't want to be that guy but who the heck are you? I can tell you in the hands of a decent pilot (a guy who went 5-1 at WTC) they are.....as he is consistently crushing other "git gud" players who routinely win con master events. Does it even matter what Juris plays? You've been complaining about his lists beating you for the better part of two editions. I will leave juris to tell you but I believe his win rate at 61 games in is over 80% with GC
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Post by octaviusmaximus on Oct 6, 2018 4:52:11 GMT
like i said, they're a good faction. a strong player will win with them. your example of a strong player doing well with a good faction doesn't prove anything. Chris davies went 5-1 at WTC with khador i believe and routinely crushes people with them too. is khador some terrifying meta crushing faction? no. its a good faction though! all this CG hyperbole seems genuinely like you just need to adapt and learn to play vs them. you did nothing to disprove my pointT What is it? Below the curve or a "good faction"? Yes yes. I know. Consistency the hobgoblin of little minds. Yours is awfully small. Don't be rude, mate. It doesn't make your argument. CG is a fine faction, its just pretty fair.
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Juris
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Post by Juris on Oct 6, 2018 7:37:23 GMT
Does it even matter what Juris plays? You've been complaining about his lists beating you for the better part of two editions. I will leave juris to tell you but I believe his win rate at 61 games in is over 80% with GC Let's all play nice. Sand, my winrate with CG is right around 80%, but that's my approximate winrate (77-80%) with every faction I play. CG is very, very good. I do not think they're broken.
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Post by Cryptix on Oct 6, 2018 12:25:13 GMT
Haha now. This thread's going on timeout while I deal with the personal attacks in this thread. If I see crap like this again the thread's going to be perma-closed and I'll be having a talk with the people involved. If you see someone insulting people, you report them to the moderating team and wait for their response, you don't insult them back.
On a side note, if you have a problem with the moderating team, it's best that you don't talk to the moderator themselves and either tell Aegis or Swampmist.
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Post by Cryptix on Oct 6, 2018 14:06:46 GMT
Time-out's over. Behave. Mods are watching, even though I have to step out for a bit.
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skormedlover87
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Desperately searching for days off to game...
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Post by skormedlover87 on Oct 6, 2018 15:38:53 GMT
I'm being watched? Well, since I read this thread on the john, you certainly got an eyeful. Please don't think less of me for my inauspicious tattoos...
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Post by mcdermott on Oct 7, 2018 7:05:06 GMT
The AC rocked because it takes very little to make a "meat mountain" strategy good in an era of flattened defense stats. In addition to Khador having some warcasters that can polish a turd til it shines and one rounds a colossal, much less units like MoW that have verged on "almost great" for most of their existence.
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Post by onijet01 on Oct 7, 2018 8:47:57 GMT
Personally i do have proof that the recent CID updates have been more beneficial to multi-wound infantry, in addition to cutting costs of selective War-Nouns.
Legion Champion CID improved and brought in a new kind of Blighted Ogrum unit. This gave Legion a list to stand on that has relitive Survivability.
Armored Corps CID, gave Man-O-War improved Survivability for non-Shocktrooper units in addition to adding 4 new Multi-Wound models to help fill in holes the 3 Core Units lacked.
Tharn- not stating on as final changes are not decided.
Retribution CID brings a masive streamlining and improvement to Destor models as well as point discounts to select warjacks. Casters became polished and focused on thematic playstyle.
Menoth CID brought a better definition to the two multiwound units. One gaining a higher survivability, while the other being desighned to trade favorably into any other medium based multiwound infantry you may battle.
So in conclution it looks as though the CID is currently trying to make Multi-Wound models initially more tempting as a choice due to lacking volume of attacks for increased trade potential in survivability for long games.
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Post by dazzla on Oct 7, 2018 11:30:33 GMT
Personally i do have proof that the recent CID updates have been more beneficial to multi-wound infantry, in addition to cutting costs of selective War-Nouns. Legion Champion CID improved and brought in a new kind of Blighted Ogrum unit. This gave Legion a list to stand on that has relitive Survivability. Armored Corps CID, gave Man-O-War improved Survivability for non-Shocktrooper units in addition to adding 4 new Multi-Wound models to help fill in holes the 3 Core Units lacked. Tharn- not stating on as final changes are not decided. Retribution CID brings a masive streamlining and improvement to Destor models as well as point discounts to select warjacks. Casters became polished and focused on thematic playstyle. Menoth CID brought a better definition to the two multiwound units. One gaining a higher survivability, while the other being desighned to trade favorably into any other medium based multiwound infantry you may battle. So in conclution it looks as though the CID is currently trying to make Multi-Wound models initially more tempting as a choice due to lacking volume of attacks for increased trade potential in survivability for long games. I think CID has obviously buffed a number of model types, but am very glad if medium based infantry particularly benefit. I think that medium based infantry adds variety to the game and has often been stuck in a mid point where the fewer models relative to single wound infantry meant fewer attacks and in some ways less unit (as opposed to model) survivability.
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Post by slaughtersun on Oct 7, 2018 11:41:52 GMT
Multi wound infantry were perhaps hit with a big nerf when editions changed. Perhaps PP is trying to balance this now that we are 3 years into mk3...
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