Need a recipe for gator stew

I have played into Maelok's version of posse spam a few times now. I have run Madrak3, Calandra, Borka2, Grim1 and a Grim2 list into them multiple times. I had fun with Sotn, but note that ambushing the bears doesn't seem to help, as my opponents want to run a central game anyway.

With Rask, there isn't really a good solution to the feat other than "get in close".

With Maelok, I really like Grim2 in Band of Heroes. I haven't tried Grissel1. Mortality shuts down the gator snacking and counters the +2ARM. Krielstone with elder shuts down incorporeal.

Posse, regardless of Gator warlock, out threat basic Champions. I like Longriders, but they are expensive.

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Trollblood - posse stew

Theme: Band of Heroes
2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army


Hunters Grim - WB: +25
- Muggs & Krump
- Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 0
- Dire Troll Bomber - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 19)
- Dire Troll Bomber - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 6)

Horthol, Long Rider Hero - PC: 8
- Horthol, Long Rider Hero (Continued)
Fell Caller Hero - PC: 0
Stone Scribe Chronicler - PC: 4

Trollkin Long Riders - Leader & 2 Grunts: 12
Trollkin Long Riders - Leader & 2 Grunts: 12
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9
- Stone Scribe Elder - PC: 3
Kriel Warriors - Leader & 5 Grunts: 7
Kriel Warriors - Leader & 5 Grunts: 7


THEME: Band of Heroes
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I know Kriel Warrior units are frowned upon, but they are cheap chaff. Run 10. They can take on the posse for a turn, provide marked target stuff for grim2 feat, and the bombers are there to throw bombs past the posse into supporting things, after long riders slam into the posse, breaking up their lines. At least thats the plan.

This was to run into Maelok, so minimum units were put in to force him to cast his mortality more than once.

Another possibility involves running with KC and the war wagon. You will undoubtedly be within 5" of his stuff pretty quick, so phooey on Rask's feat. This is the Grim2 I am currently messing around with.

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Trollblood - grim2

Theme: Kriel Company
3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army


Hunters Grim - WB: +25
- Muggs & Krump
- Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 0
- Dire Troll Bomber - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 19)
- Dire Troll Bomber - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 6)

War Wagon - PC: 16

Fell Caller Hero - PC: 0

Northkin Fire Eaters - Leader, Trollkin Grunt, and Pyg Grunt: 7
Northkin Fire Eaters - Leader, Trollkin Grunt, and Pyg Grunt: 7
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9
- Stone Scribe Elder - PC: 3
Northkin Raiders - Leader & 9 Grunts: 15
Dannon Blythe & Bull - Blythe & Bull: 5
Pummeler Crew - Gunner & 2 Grunts: 0


THEME: Kriel Company
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In KC, the fire eaters are good with boosted sprays, not melee. Raiders are a good screen. Spread them out. The wagon can get a ton of work done, and i am trying to figure out a way to squeeze in a second.

As you can see, I really like Grim2 and his ability to handle some of the posse strengths, which is their high arm and regeneration and snacking (better trolls than trolls...lol).

The times I have played against the quad posse list it has spread out nearly edge to edge, which would give bears plenty of targets, but I am not sure how much work they will do against that armor/box distribution. I personally think triple posse with shamblers or croaks or some kind of diversity is scarier, but I have generally not been playing against people who have much experience with the list.

Do the gatorman posse have rise?

So if i may.

What about this? (Kinda goes along my retribution advice)

Grim Angus (Storm of the North)
-Troll Basher ×3
-Diretroll Mauler (rage)

Fell Caller Hero ×2 (two free)
Trollkin Champion Hero ×2 (one free)

Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (max)
-Northkin Elder
-Trollkin Sorcerer ×2

Trollkin Champions (max) ×2
-Trollkin Sorcerer ×2 (per unit)

My thoughts on this matchup.

1. Your opponent will try to alpha with posse keeping out of your melee for retaliatory strike. So take advantage of Combat Caster and put out Rituals of Power every turn. Its litterally the most broken attachment ability in the game.

2. With mortality on a unit, you can pad the hit points some with the extra attachments. In the stones case it adds to the aura range and hey thats great.

3.The Fell Callers are for pathfinder and in the off chance you need it free standing up.

4. The beasts.. well with rage each 7pt light beast can make up to 4 p+s 17 melee attacks. It also brings a built in def debuff and with grim and stone can charge 12 inches (add a axer for a 14 inch missle if you want but that gets out of control area fast.)


Reasons i chose Grim as a recomendation.
1. His unique toolkit(s).
A. He has a gun that can extend your beasts charge ranges by 2 inched on damage. (Downside single target)
B. He brings a anti- ghostly/incoporial spell that doubles as a hit fixer (placing a -2 def on a model)
C. He controls units that do not have rise with Mantrap.

2. His feat is a strong two parter for me.
A. Massive -3 def swing pre spells lets you drop some good spells out.
B. It takes away your opponents ability to
...Charge
...Make Special Attacks
...Make Power Attacks

My reservations about the list is limited numbers as im relying on p+s 15 champs to chew through 20 arm 18 gators in melee

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Trollblood - New Army

Theme: Band of Heroes
3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army


Madrak Ironhide, World Ender - WB: +28
- Troll Bouncer - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 9)
- Dire Troll Bomber - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 19)

Fell Caller Hero - PC: 0
Trollkin Champion Hero - PC: 0
Fell Caller Hero - PC: 0

Trollkin Champions - Leader & 4 Grunts: 16
Trollkin Champions - Leader & 4 Grunts: 16
Sons of Bragg - Wrathar, Tor & Rhudd: 11
Trollkin Fennblades - Leader & 9 Grunts: 15
- Trollkin Fennblade Officer & Drummer - Officer & Drummer: 5
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9
- Stone Scribe Elder - PC: 3


THEME: Band of Heroes
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GENERATED : 09/12/2018 11:43:44
BUILD ID : 2067.18-06-10

Still thinking about the Maelok matchup. Weaponmaster fenns, on a charge should wreck something. Two fenns with blood fury, fell caller mat buff and charging (outside of stone strength) will be needed to regularly bring down a gator (oddsmachine says 74%). A third Fenn makes it 92%.

So a unit of fennblades under mad2 can take out a unit of gators. The problem is that fenns threat 13" and gators also threat 13" (5+3+2=natural 9, +2 prayer +1 witchdoctor =13). I don't believe they have pathfinder, but they can be given incorp by maelok's feat, and i've seen him use that to pull off the charges. KSB can help by removing incorp if they can get their bubble up far enough. If you get the dice roll, you should be able to premeasure out.

The next wave would be natural weapon masters (champs and sons). Those guys hit super hard, already being weapon master, and then why not add additional dice? One champ on a charge under blood fury can pull down a gator on his own, but only threats 9", so needs something to stop charges. Use positioning to give them a charge victim, and save the rest. X formations.

Don't expect Madrak to do much with the posse. He should focus on warbeasts, witch doctors, thrulgs and husks or the pot or shrine with his axe throwing or spell casting. If you kill a gator with axe throw, Maelok can revive it. Also, the gator posse will be undead, so madrak2 doesnt get to trigger rathrok's ability (but madrak1 could).

It will be a tough match here. You could switch out a champ unit for a second fennblade unit, and double wave it (fury unit 1 with the officer, watch them die, then fury unit 2 who did nothing last round, but can get the guys who killed your first unit). You could also go min on the second fennblade unit and add a min warrior unit to serve as Grim Salvation victims.

Victory with this list or the variations mentionned will depend largely on who starts taking out units first.