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Post by ForEver_Blight on Sept 18, 2018 12:43:02 GMT
Pursuit being a "situational" spell blows my Firetruckin mind Seeing as it doesn't even proc when a model moves for vengeance. It's a pretty dumb ass spell.
I've been drilling lists with Lylyth one and the few successful times I can get pursuit out they just wait to use that model till last, engage or kill my battle group models I wanted to save, then i just scurry L1 away somewhere.
Heck last night Kreoss 2 Chasten'd his own cinerators to clear the upkeep. That was upsetting to say the least. But again, Pursuit doesn't proc on vengeance. Only During the model's activation.
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Sept 18, 2018 13:41:06 GMT
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Post by jisidro on Sept 18, 2018 13:41:06 GMT
... The Legion CID did not literally scheme on these boards to force a false narrative as I have seen. This is the first time I've meant this: Pics or it didn't happen
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Post by ForEver_Blight on Sept 18, 2018 14:38:27 GMT
... The Legion CID did not literally scheme on these boards to force a false narrative as I have seen. This is the first time I've meant this: Pics or it didn't happen Am I to prove something didn't happen in Legion CID? Or prove something did in Tharn/Exemplar? Cuz only one of those options is possible
Did you read the 94 pages of Circle jerking before the Tharn Cid? Did you watch as many on this board were the most extremely vocal and argumentative even though they never posted battle reports to back up anything. When some did post they just copy+pasted conclusions from report to report without addressing the actual game.
The actors on display during this CID were ridiculous. Each Dev hangout specifically reiterated to stop wishlistng.
Pushing for massive rule over hauls and power spikes to models that were not found to be performing poorly was incessant. Asking for the most insane rules combinations imaginable. Saying that having colossal level strength on all warpwolves "is only a start to fixing them". For Menoth's sake they still believe a Pow 19 stalker can't kill a heavy.
It's all just blatant dishonesty.
I'm not going back through the two sets of 40 some pages to find the post during the exemplar CID that essentially read "these changes make things good but we need to push for more power". I don't have the time but that post was what made me decide to stop following that CID.
As for Legion CiD I read as much as I physically could and tried to refute the unreasonable post/request. I know there are users here that wishlist as a hobby. But aside from the incorrect logic of "PT should survive pre-nerf Nemo" I can't remember falsely representing the faction being common.
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Post by davycannonhound on Sept 18, 2018 16:09:27 GMT
I know there are users here that wishlist as a hobby. I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
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Sept 18, 2018 18:59:35 GMT
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Post by jisidro on Sept 18, 2018 18:59:35 GMT
@forever_Blight
Obviously, show examples of that examples of organized dishonesty in the PoM or Circle CID.
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Post by slaughtersun on Sept 18, 2018 19:15:32 GMT
I stopped arguing for common sense in the circle CiD the moment people thought its in the realm of possibility that an armour 21 def 14 p+s 19 warpwolf with rapid healing needed amputation.
When the bird's pulse and shooting invulnerability along with a discount was a small step towards making it "better".
Or how after people presenting statistics of circle victories the arguments were "its not against top tier lists" as if every CiD thusfar has been only against iron gauntlet winners.
I'll trust PP to sort out through the crying. In the meantime...please circle players...just stop.
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Post by ForEver_Blight on Sept 18, 2018 19:50:30 GMT
@forever_Blight Obviously, show examples of that examples of organized dishonesty in the PoM or Circle CID. Paradox asking for players to force the argument for ROF d3+1 or better and his copy paste battle reports comments. Is a very quick and easy one.
Again, there are a few players joined at the hip on the Circle forum and all drink the same cool aid. Forcing arguments and rage quitting when presented with accurate data. Only to go start the same argument again somewhere else to stir up more commotion. Harassing Devs by tagging them in posts just because they didn't like the answer and think they are entitled to the ludicrous change they want. Bat-rep comments on models in CID that were not even played in the list used in the report.
Maybe I shouldn't call it scheming as much. But there was plenty of dishonesty and backing of false ideas/results/assessments.
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Sept 19, 2018 0:13:59 GMT
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Post by jisidro on Sept 19, 2018 0:13:59 GMT
If I were to follow your logic I'd say you are trying to get a smokescreen up from the WTC results.
I'll do you the courtesy of replying to your argument. Yes ppl exaggerate, yes ppl tend to be less critical towards themselves. I don't think there is a conspiracy. Some ideas are ludicrous in all CIDs, circle is no exception.
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Post by ForEver_Blight on Sept 19, 2018 2:59:16 GMT
No Idea where the WTC fits into this. But Cool story bro. Carry on.
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Post by gordo on Sept 19, 2018 13:30:25 GMT
No Idea where the WTC fits into this. But Cool story bro. Carry on. I think the insinuation here is that you talking about players trying to manipulate CiD unfairly is somehow meant to distract from Anamag's high win rate. I'm not sure why you would want to do that, nor what it has to do with Circle's CiD, or how it would even succeed at what he's saying? I don't want to even try at conjecture as to his purpose here.
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Post by ForEver_Blight on Sept 19, 2018 14:10:12 GMT
Even if that assumption were to be true and played out. It's full of holes
1 - Most importantly Anamag is the New Shiny. People have yet to perfect a list to drop into it that also fits perfectly into their pairing. Fyanna 2 was the new shiny once and the crying about her was ridiculous. Fyanna never got nerfed or changed in any way and yet look what happened. She's no longer the big scary meta monster. She's just "good" 2 - Skarre 3 has come out of CiD recently. She wrecked face. Does that mean Cryx CID was manipulated? Who is smokescreening for them? 3 - If it's PT that is being called out as broken. Can I point you to the ratio of Bones lists in Circle? It's not about PT being broken and about the fact that PT is the most reasonably designed + functional theme we have. 4 - Can we nerf Tharn if their rules come out and suddenly a Devourer's Host theme/caster wins more than 50% of the time in the first international tournament? 5 - We cannot aim to have every single caster/theme/model have exactly a 50% or less win rate. One, because it's not mathematically possible. Two every tournament would end in a all-participant tie. 6 - WTC is a team tournament where you can skew slightly more for one job and get paired into favorable matchups when possible. So Anamag doesn't necessarily have to face her counters.
If we then want to back track even a little more. JVM wrecked face at Nova with Anamag in PT. The same player who threw a Rhyas 1 list down and won. Same player who has been winning with Legion the entire edition. I can't remotely be so dishonest as to assume it's because PT or Anamag is Over powered. JVM could beat me with an army of Shepherds.
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Post by unded on Sept 19, 2018 16:28:26 GMT
... Fyanna never got nerfed or changed in any way and yet look what happened. She's no longer the big scary meta monster. She's just "good" Is this serious or just some next-level trolling? Fyanna's feat got a massive nerf, and her signature beast (scarsfells) took a big nerf. Basically she got the Karchev treatment.
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Post by ForEver_Blight on Sept 19, 2018 16:30:04 GMT
... Fyanna never got nerfed or changed in any way and yet look what happened. She's no longer the big scary meta monster. She's just "good" Is this serious or just some next-level trolling? Fyanna's feat got a massive nerf, and her signature beast (scarsfells) took a big nerf. Basically she got the Karchev treatment. What'cha been drinking bub?
You're talking about Una 2. I'm talking about Fyanna 2.
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Post by unded on Sept 19, 2018 16:38:43 GMT
Nevermind, apparently I've been drinking too much.
My Hordes factions have melded into a grotesque blur.
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Tharn CID
Sept 19, 2018 16:53:18 GMT
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Post by gordo on Sept 19, 2018 16:53:18 GMT
... Fyanna never got nerfed or changed in any way and yet look what happened. She's no longer the big scary meta monster. She's just "good" Is this serious or just some next-level trolling? Fyanna's feat got a massive nerf, and her signature beast (scarsfells) took a big nerf. Basically she got the Karchev treatment. Fyanna didn't get nerfed. They nerfed Oracles of Annihilation instead. Because reasons.
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