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Post by postindirty on Aug 29, 2018 1:29:07 GMT
more expressing my disdain for the sweeper/pivot languaging.
I was considering Magnus2 and Ashlynn for my pairing, but Ossrum ended up being a stronger option than Ashlynn - I'm still convinced she's got a heap of flex I want to exploit,but she'll need time and practice
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Post by onijet01 on Aug 29, 2018 2:08:45 GMT
more expressing my disdain for the sweeper/pivot languaging. I was considering Magnus2 and Ashlynn for my pairing, but Ossrum ended up being a stronger option than Ashlynn - I'm still convinced she's got a heap of flex I want to exploit,but she'll need time and practice Okay cause i feel the same towards those words, i blame tim from advance maneuvers for ever bringing it up. Its all his fault. Well he is were i first heard it. Im looking at constance in irregulars as one of my list choices, partiallu rebolving around her feat but more looking into a infantry spam idea. Ill be testing this weekend
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Post by shoe on Aug 29, 2018 2:33:03 GMT
asslynn and magnass2 are both sweeper casters as it were and do teh same thing. assrum is teh only pivot in faction what can swing wit teh big boys
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Post by onijet01 on Aug 29, 2018 2:47:16 GMT
Not really shoe. Ossrum is a decent feat caster but in irregulars one can feild a very powerful list using Damiano who dispite lacking the +3 spd of Ossrum on his feat still pulls a +3 str and arm swing into the lists.
This also means that if you are planing to use any fast infantry you can out threat the comparible Ossrum lists and force Ossrum to walk on his heals.
Ossrum runs a gun line better only due to rulic warjacks powerful attack. Damiano on the flip brings more accurate guns to beer and can bring a difrent alpha that ossrum hates seeing.
The damage potential for a sweeper feat lies soaly in Damianos corner over Ossrum for a pure melee damage swing
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Post by Zeykk on Aug 29, 2018 3:20:46 GMT
I don't think you addressed the point that shoe was making at all. You offered Damiano as a "sweeper" to shoot down his position that Ossrum is the only real heavyweight "pivot" we have? Apples to oranges methinks. Yes, Damiano can bludgeon his way with fast, disposable infantry and hit like a tone of bricks; no one is disputing that.
Yes, they can both build super flexible lists, but Ossrum answers more questions than Damiano with his list building. Damiano ends up trying to ask questions more often than not.
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Post by postindirty on Aug 29, 2018 4:02:46 GMT
Just build a list that does both and ditch the redundant sweeper/pivot bullkaka -_- Ossrum and Magnus ftw
Or Damiano. Maybe Thexus. Ashlynn at a stretch. Maybe Shae even.....
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Post by onijet01 on Aug 29, 2018 6:34:16 GMT
Just build a list that does both and ditch the redundant sweeper/pivot bullkaka -_- Ossrum and Magnus ftw Or Damiano. Maybe Thexus. Ashlynn at a stretch. Maybe Shae even..... Oh thats a interesting pairing Thexus with Damiano..... Work time
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Post by shoe on Aug 29, 2018 7:44:36 GMT
ok so thexass and damniano and asslyn and magnass2 (halberd spam) all usually put out a buncha mans and go OK SIR KILL ALL MY MANS!
or magnass2 runs liek 8 heavies and sez BOY I SURE HOPE THAT U DO NOT HAVE TOO MANY GUNS THIS DAY
and then cygnar or wurmtree show up and beat their butts so ur pivot must beat cygnar and wurmtree unless assrum is ur sweeper and ur worried about 9 slayers or something...
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Post by onijet01 on Aug 29, 2018 8:21:51 GMT
Depends on how lists are built not every list with those casters is dude spam shoe, and technically Ossrum is just as disadvantaged vs skilled players in those lists as well.
But what makes ossrum so dependent outside powerful attack on cheap warjacks
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Post by shoe on Aug 29, 2018 13:49:28 GMT
you are a difficult fellow to understand
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Post by postindirty on Aug 31, 2018 0:27:43 GMT
this is the first place in several months that I've even seen someone consider Wurmwood So if all you're worried about is Cygnar - time for MacBain?
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Post by shoe on Aug 31, 2018 0:59:15 GMT
haha. macbain is poop on a rope. LOOKIT! IMA TAKE DOWN PRIMAL TERRORS AND ALSO MAD DORK 1 WITH FORTUNE, FAILSAFE AND 6 FOCUS!!!! OH WAIT I CANNOT SO I HOPE THAT MY OTHER LIST CAN TAKE ON EVERYTHING ELSE!
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Post by onijet01 on Aug 31, 2018 1:09:03 GMT
haha. macbain is poop on a rope. LOOKIT! IMA TAKE DOWN PRIMAL TERRORS AND ALSO MAD DORK 1 WITH FORTUNE, FAILSAFE AND 6 FOCUS!!!! OH WAIT I CANNOT SO I HOPE THAT MY OTHER LIST CAN TAKE ON EVERYTHING ELSE! Shoe just stop ss it seems you can not snswe questions. So i re word them. 1. What makes Ossrum 1 good? 2. Do you ever have anything constructive to say or are you always one liner nonsense? To the player asking about McBain. He can do some fairly fun and annoying things to an opponent. If you take stealth unit aply countermeasures before they sdvance. Failsafe is s good spell for a jsck thsts high base armor, toro collossal, rover the like. His feat is great but gets stopped by grevous wounds and thats sad. He can make melee units more accurate with forune. He is not as bad as shoe would mske him seem, though i also doubt anything shoe says as they seem to be a parrot
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Post by shoe on Aug 31, 2018 1:42:25 GMT
i shall never stop ss, no matter what anyone says
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Post by shoe on Aug 31, 2018 1:53:21 GMT
this is the first place in several months that I've even seen someone consider Wurmwood So if all you're worried about is Cygnar - time for MacBain? also i do not know if u hav palayed macbain into cygnar lateley but they has this theme they call grapediggers. and there's dis doggo that looks kinda like onijet and it goes wof wof and all ur stealth stuff loses stealth and gets all shot by trencher exprass teams and munched by capn maxwell finn cuz dey has grievous wounds or repoopdiated by haley3 and then u lose cuz macbain dont do nothin much else
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