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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Aug 12, 2018 16:25:00 GMT
Hi fellow Swans, played at a local Steamroller yesterday, went 1-2 In the end, played Stryker 3 Gravediggers for all 3 games. The two games I lost were against Harkevitch Jaws and Fyanna Primal Terrors, both felt pretty rough, especially the Harkevitch game. I am feeling in a bit of a rut atm with Cygnar, so would like to try some stuff I may have not considered. What are you enjoying at the moment? And what are you using to take on Warjack heavy lists and/or medium based infantry lists? Thanks
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Post by Rork on Aug 12, 2018 16:47:31 GMT
I love Siege1 in heavy metal to counter medium base lists. Aiming chargers typically wreck them and the TWL can even keep them very safe from retaliation with fire group. I was playing an ADR match into goreshade1 recently and Siege2 did pretty well, but it was a huge slog to get the win. Ragman and cycling Fury can do work with Trenchers of all flavours. It even had success into huge bases.
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Post by onijet01 on Aug 12, 2018 23:08:59 GMT
My go to list is Stryker 2 Storm Division. Or Sloan 1 in Gravediggers.
Storm Division Stryker 2 -Lancer -Lancer -Firefly
Major Katherine Laddermore -dismount Storm Lances (max)
Two Units of Stormblade Infantry -Officer and Standard -Firefly
Stormblade Captain (free) Major Harrison Gibbs (free)
The list has a large amount of deceptive power. Ranging from potential pow 16 guns, to melee at p+s 17 post buffs. Infact with positive charge and crush each martialed firefly can reach pow 17. Charging Stormblade Infantry can equal that power after their gun shots, and Storm Lances can hit charge targets at p+s 18 melee.
Lancers serve as ways to buff units vea positive charge and allow Rebuke casting keeping Stryker 2 safe. (Though he is the hardest potential hitting model.)
The sloan list has two builds based on that you flavor.
Gravediggers Battlegroup Options A: Sloan 1 -×2 Defender
B: Sloan 1 -×3 Grenader -Grenader (swaps out for trencher Cannon Crew)
Trencher Cannon Crew (can be swapped out for Grenader)(free with battlegroup A) Trencher Express Team (free) Trencher Express Team (free with battlegroup B) Captain Maxwell Finn (free) Commander Anson Hitch
Trencher Blockhouse ×2 Trencher Infantry (min) ×2 Trencher Long Gunner (max) -Trencher Long Gunner Officer
The list is range heavy but does a good amount of scenerio work. I tend to favor Battlegroup A. As i tend to play into the Witch Coven and sloans feated battlegroup allow me so good counter play to both reduce the feats affectiveness and potentially one round the unit with defender shots. (4 shots at dice minus 7(focus feild and armor diffrence) boosted average 12 damage as one covens is dead by this point due to sloan herself)
The battlegoup B is more anti infantry but if you have a armor cracking list sloan makes a great atrition caster.
Though i admit any caster can support the units better its meant as non caster using list were casters take out models the units struggle with
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Post by cain on Aug 13, 2018 7:53:07 GMT
Medium infantry spam is a headache which gives me mrk.2 troll vibes. I have had good success with siege1 heavy metal with cain0. Siege2 with spam infantry have been OK If i go first to jam them. For jackspam Haley2, stryker2 and the melee version of Haley3 have been OK.
If we are more on the whats fun camp; i am enyoing siege2 most ATM. Fun caster, with lots of options, and a good assassination run.
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Aug 13, 2018 8:23:23 GMT
Thanks for all the suggestions, I am tempted to give Stryker 2 in Storm Division a whirl again, as long as I can resist the temptation to just Overload and charge in all the time
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Post by Rork on Aug 13, 2018 9:03:08 GMT
Thanks for all the suggestions, I am tempted to give Stryker 2 in Storm Division a whirl again, as long as I can resist the temptation to just Overload and charge in all the time No one can resist that temptation. No one.
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Aug 13, 2018 10:14:30 GMT
Might give this a go, been looking for an excuse to put double Lances back on the table
Cygnar Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Storm Division
[Stryker 2] Lord Commander Stryker [+28] - Lancer [10] - Ol' Rowdy [18] - Squire [0(5)]
Captain Arlan Strangewayes [0(4)] Journeyman Warcaster [0(4)] - Firefly [8] Major Katherine Laddermore [8] Rhupert Carvolo, Piper of Ord [4] Stormblade Captain [5] Stormblade Captain [5] Stormsmith Stormcaller (3) [5]
Storm Lances (max) [20] Storm Lances (max) [20]
It's hard not taking Gibbs, but I think the need for Pathfinder is too great, especially for Stryker threatening an assassination
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Post by cygnarstronk on Aug 13, 2018 11:19:46 GMT
Might give this a go, been looking for an excuse to put double Lances back on the table Cygnar Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Storm Division [Stryker 2] Lord Commander Stryker [+28] - Lancer [10] - Ol' Rowdy [18] - Squire [0(5)] Captain Arlan Strangewayes [0(4)] Journeyman Warcaster [0(4)] - Firefly [8] Major Katherine Laddermore [8] Rhupert Carvolo, Piper of Ord [4] Stormblade Captain [5] Stormblade Captain [5] Stormsmith Stormcaller (3) [5] Storm Lances (max) [20] Storm Lances (max) [20] It's hard not taking Gibbs, but I think the need for Pathfinder is too great, especially for Stryker threatening an assassination Yeah, probably it's better to take carvolo.
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Post by onijet01 on Aug 13, 2018 11:57:22 GMT
Thanks for all the suggestions, I am tempted to give Stryker 2 in Storm Division a whirl again, as long as I can resist the temptation to just Overload and charge in all the time No one can resist that temptation. No one. I can easily its far more fun to charg infantry then calmly walk up to the oponents caster overload at 3d6 and watch them hope you roll 17 or 18 on damage only se see thier face turn white when stryker 2 has p+s 30 melee in their face.
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Post by lerderk on Aug 15, 2018 18:49:22 GMT
Hi fellow Swans, played at a local Steamroller yesterday, went 1-2 In the end, played Stryker 3 Gravediggers for all 3 games. The two games I lost were against Harkevitch Jaws and Fyanna Primal Terrors, both felt pretty rough, especially the Harkevitch game. I am feeling in a bit of a rut atm with Cygnar, so would like to try some stuff I may have not considered. What are you enjoying at the moment? And what are you using to take on Warjack heavy lists and/or medium based infantry lists? Thanks Fear the swan podcast 6 and 8, listen to both
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