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Post by autocorrecthaslimits on Aug 1, 2018 21:04:07 GMT
Hello! I am new to the forums but have played mercs since early mk2. I recently got into ossrum and found him to be a deep and rewarding caster. He runs the dwarf faction pretty much and has lots of answers. Where I am struggling is with pairing him. I tried ashylnn in llael but felt like the pairing didnt cover enough. I've tried magnus2 nomad spam and again felt like I'm playing the same game
Do you all have any ideals? I've even thought gorten with a EB to smash armor. What kind of lists do you all pair with ossrum? Here's my ossrum list for reference. Any help would be appreciated!! War Room Army
Mercenary - pew pew pew
Theme: The Irregulars 4 / 4 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army 8 / 20 Specialist
General Ossrum - WJ: +28 - Reinholdt, Gobber Speculator - PC: 0 - Ghordson Driller - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 10) - Ghordson Driller - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 10) - Grundback Gunner - PC: 6 (Battlegroup Points Used: 6) - Grundback Gunner - PC: 6 (Battlegroup Points Used: 2) - Grundback Gunner - PC: 6 - Grundback Gunner - PC: 6 - Grundback Blaster - PC: 6 - Grundback Blaster - PC: 6 - Grundback Gunner - PC: 6 - Grundback Gunner - PC: 6 - Grundback Gunner - PC: 6
Anastasia di Bray - PC: 3 Eiryss, Mage Hunter of Ios - PC: 0 Kell Bailoch - PC: 0 Alten Ashley - PC: 0
Herne & Jonne - Herne & Jonne: 5 Lynus Wesselbaum & Edrea Lloryrr - Lynus & Edrea: 5 Horgenhold Forge Guard - Leader & 9 Grunts: 16
SPECIALISTS Lady Aiyana & Master Holt - Lady Aiyana & Master Holt: 8
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psyllus
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Post by psyllus on Aug 2, 2018 0:08:28 GMT
Ossrum can run many different types of lists, so let's first look at what your Ossrum list does and doesn't do:
Does: - Kill lots of infantry - Un-jam itself - All but nullify lower POW attacks - Assassinate a single stealth'd model - Run a strong scenario game
Doesn't deal with: - High ARM spam - Cloud walls - Strong anti-ranged tech (Windstorm, Counter-Measures) - Anti-push spam - Reach models that don't die to boosted POW 10s - Incorporeal or other things that require magic weapons
If you swap out Herne & Jonne and Lynus & Edrea for Aiyana & Holt and a Gobber Tinker, you can deal better with ARM spam and make sure the Drillers are in fighting order when it comes time to commit them. It also gives you the magic weapon to deal with Gremlin Swarms and Wraith Engines.
This leaves anti-ranged tech as the list's primary vulnerability.
So, what lists do you run that handle anti-ranged tech?
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shoe
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Post by shoe on Aug 2, 2018 0:33:06 GMT
i don think specialists are allowed anymore and ossrum isnt adr now anyhow
drop herne and jon, run 1 more blaster. alten should be ragman
ur other list is usually magnus2 or damiano if u wanna super compete. i running asslyn double rocketmans as the pair. dem dudes are hard to kill
all dem other casters are mediocre
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Post by autocorrecthaslimits on Aug 2, 2018 1:34:18 GMT
Thanks guys! I will drop H&J for a spray bunny rand replace alten with Ragman I did struggle a bit with medium infantry and calvary. I used elf and holt vs coven darkhost and the magic weapons did help if theres no specialists I'll stick with them. Thanks for the feedback on my list I'll try it out for few games.
As for pairing, psyllus against range or tricky stuff I usually run magnus2 and just sort of throw steelheads and nomads until the opponent attrition or clock. I am unsure if 2 battgroup heavy lists is ok. Although gun bunnies are less Jacks more portable handcannons. What type of anti range options do mercs typically use to deal with stuff like Krueger or witch2?
Shoe what kind of damiano are you thinking? Kingmaker with trenchers? And double rocketdudes with ashylnn sounds most disgustung! Outside of winning by inducing anneryism does it work well?
Thanks again guys!
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shoe
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Post by shoe on Aug 2, 2018 1:52:38 GMT
shoe is not capitalized. either the standard charles soong damiano kingmaker list u can find on dgi or i used to run double idrians double halberdiers in irregulars for magic weapon and pathfinder.
asslyn double rocketmans beats everything except e leaps and 3 dice range or melee armies (guided fire, deadeye, powerful attack guided hand, murderous), and armies that stack both def and ARM (like mad dork1 who happens to also have guided hand...)
kallus1, mad dork1, skarre1, sloan, cygnar in general, lylyth3, lylyth2, iron mom, ravyn, damiano all bad news.
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Post by autocorrecthaslimits on Aug 2, 2018 5:48:40 GMT
I have enough models to run that soong damiano list so I'll start there. The double Idrians also look like fun in the future. Thanks for the tips shoe!
I think I'm at a good place to practice some lists. Theres a tourney in 2 weeks, then our big local event in September so I have time to tweak. At least its narrowed down the potential pairings from a gazillion to at the moment damiano!
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Juris
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Post by Juris on Aug 2, 2018 22:37:06 GMT
Ossrum can run many different types of lists, so let's first look at what your Ossrum list does and doesn't do: Does: - Kill lots of infantry - Un-jam itself - All but nullify lower POW attacks - Assassinate a single stealth'd model - Run a strong scenario game Doesn't deal with: - High ARM spam - Cloud walls - Strong anti-ranged tech (Windstorm, Counter-Measures) - Anti-push spam - Reach models that don't die to boosted POW 10s - Incorporeal or other things that require magic weapons If you swap out Herne & Jonne and Lynus & Edrea for Aiyana & Holt and a Gobber Tinker, you can deal better with ARM spam and make sure the Drillers are in fighting order when it comes time to commit them. It also gives you the magic weapon to deal with Gremlin Swarms and Wraith Engines. This leaves anti-ranged tech as the list's primary vulnerability. So, what lists do you run that handle anti-ranged tech? Lynus and Edrea and Spray bunnies certainly help deal with most cloud walls.
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