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Post by aniron on Jul 21, 2018 17:33:16 GMT
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Post by Soul Samurai on Jul 22, 2018 3:58:23 GMT
Interesting. The wings look very well done, and I do like the occasional "floating" sculpt. However, there's something about the sculpt that's turning me off a bit. I don't know if it's her pose (which is just kind of unfocussed?) or her clothes/armour (which are just kind of random).
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Post by Aegis on Jul 22, 2018 11:54:08 GMT
THIS, is a miniature worth 19$!
I like it as miniature, but I find wings to be not very fitting for Eyriss. I would prefer if they focus on fluff-coherent alternative models or theme changes (like the pirate Gastone) more than miniatures that have nothing to do with the original model...
I'm torn on this... To buy or not to buy?
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Post by Soul Samurai on Jul 22, 2018 12:00:39 GMT
I would prefer if they focus on fluff-coherent alternative models Where's the fun in that? Looking at the model again, I'm thinking that she'd look much better with her right arm down by her side, and maybe looking upwards rather than straight ahead. The right arm is almost certainly a separate piece, so that part is probably doable; posing the head would be harder but also not impossible. I don't think I'm going to go for it myself; the problems I have with it could be fixed, but I doubt I'd ever find the time. If you like the model as-is though, why not?
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Post by tiberius on Jul 22, 2018 12:52:39 GMT
I think she looks great, definitely better than the gun mage or a few of the other ones they have pumped out. I am looking forward to this one.
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Post by mazog on Jul 22, 2018 13:05:01 GMT
I would prefer if they focus on fluff-coherent alternative models Where's the fun in that? Looking at the model again, I'm thinking that she'd look much better with her right arm down by her side, and maybe looking upwards rather than straight ahead. The right arm is almost certainly a separate piece, so that part is probably doable; posing the head would be harder but also not impossible. I don't think I'm going to go for it myself; the problems I have with it could be fixed, but I doubt I'd ever find the time. If you like the model as-is though, why not? if you just turn the head up, it is very nearly a Superman pose. The effect would be better if you turn the gun arm down, though. I see what you mean about turning the head up being hard though, it seems (from an inexperienced moddersl's perspective) like it would be easier to head swap, that hood would be a real pain. I would be very amused to see one flying high above a base in Superman style, though.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Jul 22, 2018 13:20:44 GMT
if you just turn the head up, it is very nearly a Superman pose. The effect would be better if you turn the gun arm down, though. I see what you mean about turning the head up being hard though, it seems (from an inexperienced moddersl's perspective) like it would be easier to head swap, that hood would be a real pain. I would be very amused to see one flying high above a base in Superman style, though. There's something about the pose of the wings and the way she's pointing the sword at the sky that just makes her current head position look a bit awkward to me; it seems to be disconnected from the rest of her body (except maybe the crossbow arm, which is itself very awkward), which all has a sort of a "rising" movement going on. Anyway, I've made models look upwards before: Those are metal minis so I was able to bend the neck after cutting most of the way through it. Eyriss might be resin, but even if she's metal I think you would still need to cut the head clean off and pin it back as desired, sculpting over the join, at which point it's almost the same as a head swap. But that's doable. I guess if you do repose Eyriss the way I'm thinking you basically end up with the same pose as "Ashes-lynn", which they probably wanted to avoid, but at the end of the day that's just a good pose. I suppose her current pose could also work if she was leaning forwards a bit more to give the model more forwards motion; then the angle of the crossbow arm would look more natural? Basically imagine her at the same angle as one of those Eliminators in the photo, with the crossbow and her head looking forwards, her wings pointing up and maybe back; I'm not sure about the sword but maybe that should be down by her side, trailing backwards a little? Damn, now I'm feeling more tempted to get the model and screw around with it.
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Post by mazog on Jul 22, 2018 13:34:33 GMT
I'm sorry?
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Post by Soul Samurai on Jul 22, 2018 14:06:40 GMT
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Post by mazog on Jul 22, 2018 16:43:03 GMT
it seemed like you were more interested after our discussion than before. It was a poorly phrased joke, I am still not used to the lack of side-channel communication on message boards.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Jul 22, 2018 17:51:06 GMT
I suppose you were enabling my plastic crack addiction, but hey, I'm used to it...
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Post by Hashmal on Jul 23, 2018 17:40:16 GMT
If I didn't already have a winged Harby I know what those wings would be used for...
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Post by Aegis on Jul 25, 2018 6:44:57 GMT
I would prefer if they focus on fluff-coherent alternative models Where's the fun in that? I would say "where ISN'T the fun?". Would you say that if they came out with a super-cool dynamic model of Eyriss2 that lets you play her without having to see a town roof in the middle of a jungle battle you would be displeased? Or if instead of Ashlynn, was Feora to get fire wings, wouldn't it be even more cool, since it fits her char? In alternative, theme swaps are also ok if well tought. As an example, Gastone can be played with pirates, so making a pirate version of it was a good idea. In general, I would like to see more models that can be integrated in an army and fit nicely into it.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Jul 25, 2018 8:00:08 GMT
I would say "where ISN'T the fun?". Would you say that if they came out with a super-cool dynamic model of Eyriss2 that lets you play her without having to see a town roof in the middle of a jungle battle you would be displeased? Or if instead of Ashlynn, was Feora to get fire wings, wouldn't it be even more cool, since it fits her char? In alternative, theme swaps are also ok if well tought. As an example, Gastone can be played with pirates, so making a pirate version of it was a good idea. In general, I would like to see more models that can be integrated in an army and fit nicely into it. I do love to be able to USE my models in my army, so I certainly see where you're coming from. But to me overall army coherency is less important than individual models being cool. And while a pirate version of Gastone is cool, it's still a pirate, and PP has plenty of pirate models. If they're going to try to make "super exclusive limited ultra hyper combo special finish" models, then I feel like making another pirate is less special than doing something, well, special; something that they probably wouldn't make as a normal model. I'd be perfectly happy to have, say, Caine as a cowboy heading a Cygnar army even though it's not thematically consistent. I know a lot of players aren't big on that sort of thing, but I feel like they already have plenty of Caine models to choose from, and PP has plenty of gunmage models overall, so another gunmage Cain wouldn't really feel that special. As for Feora with fire wings: I would say it fits her theme (fire) but not her character (ambition). There was more to the Ashes model than just the wings; part of why it worked so well was because it showed Ashlynn as a martyr, which fits her character, even if flames don't exactly fit her theme. It was evocative; a mini-diorama. From what little I know of Feora she ain't the self-sacrificing type; seeing her with flaming wings would be cool (although I don't like her existing models personally so I don't think I'd actually like a flamey wing version, but that's a matter of personal taste), but not as cool as the Ashes model was. At the end of the day I'd just prefer not to try to limit a sculptors creativity by saying that the model has to fit alongside the established themes in this particular instance, as I'd like to see something different from what we already have.
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Post by deathbymelancholy on Jul 25, 2018 12:21:19 GMT
I'm still waiting for Rahn as a stage magician......
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