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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Apr 12, 2017 9:22:51 GMT
One of my biggest laments about playing Stryker 2 in Theme is no delicious Hot Meal to patch him up, however it has occurred to me that Gibbs is a Trencher Solo, so we can have those sweet free points and Hot Meal!
Also Trenchers are probably ok with Stryker 2, Deceleration and dig in makes them hard to remove from ranged, pow 13 charge attacks with positive charge are not terrible, also those Trench Busters (hopefully free) hit like trucks with Flank and Positive Charge.
Gravediggers is already my favourite theme and it is not even out yet! |
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Post by octaviusmaximus on Apr 12, 2017 11:21:18 GMT
One of my biggest laments about playing Stryker 2 in Theme is no delicious Hot Meal to patch him up, however it has occurred to me that Gibbs is a Trencher Solo, so we can have those sweet free points and Hot Meal!
Also Trenchers are probably ok with Stryker 2, Deceleration and dig in makes them hard to remove from ranged, pow 13 charge attacks with positive charge are not terrible, also those Trench Busters (hopefully free) hit like trucks with Flank and Positive Charge.
Gravediggers is already my favourite theme and it is not even out yet! The best theme is the one where you haven't had to play around its restrictions yet  I am looking forward to the book, but I have a feeling thay things like junior, Arlan and squire won't be in it. We might get lucky with cool replacements of some kind, but still. |
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Apr 12, 2017 14:02:31 GMT
No Squire or Junior would be pretty sad, Arlan I could probably live without. Assuming you get a free UA or trencher solo for every point of trenchers, maybe something like this.
Stryker 2
- Centurion +17
- Centurion +17
- Centurion +17
Gibbs +4
Maxwell Finn +6
Trench Buster (free)
Trench Buster (free)
Max Trenchers +16
- UA +5
Max Trenchers +16
- UA +5
Probably not the best but could be fun
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Post by cygnarstronk on Apr 12, 2017 15:47:30 GMT
Nah mates, JR is almost sure to be in gravediggers (i mean, a snipe caster+JR with attached grenadiers? Sounds very solid in that theme and very fitting), Arlan is probably going to be out and the squire i'm 50/50 on it.
Sure thing there is going to be the trencher master gunner... would it make sense then taking artillery? It should count towards the free points, as they are trencher models, and you get a free second shot with the solo.
I seriously doubt the busters or finn are gonna be free anyway, 6 points sounds too much for a free model. I think that the busters may gain something, i hope 8 boxes and sheild guard back.
anyway back to stryker 2, I still think he needs to be out of theme to leverage his power. I mean, he needs pathfinder for the assassination run and isn't the guy to use commandoes, artillery or big trencher units, he is fine with a min smokewall.
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Post by mekame on Apr 12, 2017 16:28:59 GMT
We will also have to see what else comes out with gravediggers and if it benefits Stryker of course, though trenchers in melee with his feat sounds a bit iffy to me considering their relative lack of hitting power once engaged.
I wouldn't be shocked if Finn was free though. We can get another 6 point, Acosta, gratis in storm division after all, and usually it says small based instead of a point limit. 50/50 on the buster though.
Has there been any word if Stryker will even be able to be taken with it though? Completely heresay but for some reason I was under the impression some of the later themes would be more restrictive caster wise.
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Post by octaviusmaximus on Apr 12, 2017 21:19:12 GMT
Nah mates, JR is almost sure to be in gravediggers (i mean, a snipe caster+JR with attached grenadiers? Sounds very solid in that theme and very fitting), Arlan is probably going to be out and the squire i'm 50/50 on it. Sure thing there is going to be the trencher master gunner... would it make sense then taking artillery? It should count towards the free points, as they are trencher models, and you get a free second shot with the solo. I seriously doubt the busters or finn are gonna be free anyway, 6 points sounds too much for a free model. I think that the busters may gain something, i hope 8 boxes and sheild guard back. anyway back to stryker 2, I still think he needs to be out of theme to leverage his power. I mean, he needs pathfinder for the assassination run and isn't the guy to use commandoes, artillery or big trencher units, he is fine with a min smokewall. You start out by saying that junior is going to be in theme (while he doesn't really follow the theme of the list). And then say 6 points is too much to be free (while I can think of the hellslinger and stannis who can be free for 7 points). Busters currently have shield guard. I always find strykers assassination to be low value. I will look forward to seeing if gravediggers is worth running with him because Gibbs is good and stryker grants more armour cracking that trenchers lack. |
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Post by cygnarstronk on Apr 13, 2017 8:14:09 GMT
Nah mates, JR is almost sure to be in gravediggers (i mean, a snipe caster+JR with attached grenadiers? Sounds very solid in that theme and very fitting), Arlan is probably going to be out and the squire i'm 50/50 on it. Sure thing there is going to be the trencher master gunner... would it make sense then taking artillery? It should count towards the free points, as they are trencher models, and you get a free second shot with the solo. I seriously doubt the busters or finn are gonna be free anyway, 6 points sounds too much for a free model. I think that the busters may gain something, i hope 8 boxes and sheild guard back. anyway back to stryker 2, I still think he needs to be out of theme to leverage his power. I mean, he needs pathfinder for the assassination run and isn't the guy to use commandoes, artillery or big trencher units, he is fine with a min smokewall. You start out by saying that junior is going to be in theme (while he doesn't really follow the theme of the list). And then say 6 points is too much to be free (while I can think of the hellslinger and stannis who can be free for 7 points). Busters currently have shield guard. I always find strykers assassination to be low value. I will look forward to seeing if gravediggers is worth running with him because Gibbs is good and stryker grants more armour cracking that trenchers lack. Sorry, i was meaning the blast immunity! Anyway I could think that gibbs may be part of the free solos, but I seriously doubt about the buster. It would be too many 6 points solos for free in a single theme list, IMO. |
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Apr 13, 2017 9:18:45 GMT
I don't think getting 6 point solos for free would be problematic, as people have pointed out, other themes already allow free 6 and 7 point solos. Also the max you could get is 3 solos (60 points of Trenchers), which would be a max of 18 points, Heavy metal can get you 17 free points, the Legion theme can get you 20 free points! As I mentioned in my original post 'Theme Forces, Faction Bloat and Design intensions' playing points up in theme looks like the new norm, and the way that PP are going to balance factions.
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