bluebeard
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Post by bluebeard on Jul 17, 2018 16:33:18 GMT
What about invictors screening sentinels under Ossyan with Destors on the opposite flank? Get some awesome out the gate SPD. +2 from theme, +2 from quicken on Invictors. Then use mini-feat to make guns Rng 14. Assault 12" and shoot 14", plus additional damage die if you feat turn 1. Lol!
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Post by Gaston on Jul 17, 2018 16:51:58 GMT
What about invictors screening sentinels under Ossyan with Destors on the opposite flank? Get some awesome out the gate SPD. +2 from theme, +2 from quicken on Invictors. Then use mini-feat to make guns Rng 14. Assault 12" and shoot 14", plus additional damage die if you feat turn 1. Lol! Reposition
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bluebeard
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Post by bluebeard on Jul 17, 2018 17:04:14 GMT
What about invictors screening sentinels under Ossyan with Destors on the opposite flank? Get some awesome out the gate SPD. +2 from theme, +2 from quicken on Invictors. Then use mini-feat to make guns Rng 14. Assault 12" and shoot 14", plus additional damage die if you feat turn 1. Lol! Reposition oh ya! Forgot about that, haha. Also, one time rerolls from combined arms. Kill them round ears before they can issue orders.
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Post by deathbymelancholy on Jul 17, 2018 17:41:57 GMT
What about invictors screening sentinels under Ossyan with Destors on the opposite flank? Get some awesome out the gate SPD. +2 from theme, +2 from quicken on Invictors. Then use mini-feat to make guns Rng 14. Assault 12" and shoot 14", plus additional damage die if you feat turn 1. Lol! How does Ossyan get his feat far enough up the table on turn 1? It is still "enemy within" isn't it?
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Post by belgambit on Jul 17, 2018 17:46:52 GMT
What about invictors screening sentinels under Ossyan with Destors on the opposite flank? Get some awesome out the gate SPD. +2 from theme, +2 from quicken on Invictors. Then use mini-feat to make guns Rng 14. Assault 12" and shoot 14", plus additional damage die if you feat turn 1. Lol! You'd be hard pressed to catch anyone in the feat bubble, but being able to walk 9" up from deployment bottom of turn 1 and reach out and touch anything that moved more than 8" from their deployment zone with some nice POW 12s (and up to a single POW 23 with CRA) and then Reposition 3"... that's sexy.
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isotope
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Post by isotope on Jul 17, 2018 17:55:42 GMT
What about invictors screening sentinels under Ossyan with Destors on the opposite flank? Get some awesome out the gate SPD. +2 from theme, +2 from quicken on Invictors. Then use mini-feat to make guns Rng 14. Assault 12" and shoot 14", plus additional damage die if you feat turn 1. Lol! You'd be hard pressed to catch anyone in the feat bubble, but being able to walk 9" up from deployment bottom of turn 1 and reach out and touch anything that moved more than 8" from their deployment zone with some nice POW 12s (and up to a single POW 23 with CRA) and then Reposition 3"... that's sexy. I agree that feats effecting your own models will likely be more productive than ones that need to catch enemy models with this change.
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bluebeard
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Post by bluebeard on Jul 17, 2018 19:24:50 GMT
That thought behind Ossyan feating was to get the bonus die for your own models ranged damage. If it happens to catch a few enemies that's just icing. Was figuring you could cast spells needed then feat, and end activation by charging 11" up to maximize bubble.
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Post by falkman on Jul 17, 2018 19:35:55 GMT
That thought behind Ossyan feating was to get the bonus die for your own models ranged damage. If it happens to catch a few enemies that's just icing. Was figuring you could cast spells needed then feat, and end activation by charging 11" up to maximize bubble. You need the enemy models in Ossyan’s CTRL range to get the bonus damage dice against them.
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isotope
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Post by isotope on Jul 17, 2018 20:40:12 GMT
That thought behind Ossyan feating was to get the bonus die for your own models ranged damage. If it happens to catch a few enemies that's just icing. Was figuring you could cast spells needed then feat, and end activation by charging 11" up to maximize bubble. You need the enemy models in Ossyan’s CTRL range to get the bonus damage dice against them. This. Issyria would work well. Maybe somthing like this?? Retribution Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Legions of Dawn
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[Issyria 1] Issyria, Sibyl of Dawn [+29] - Chimera [8] - Hemera [16] - Hyperion [34] - Sylys Wyshnalyrr, the Seeker [0(4)] Arcanist Mechanik [2] Arcanist Mechanik [2] Arcanist Mechanik [2] Dawnguard Sentinel Scyir [0(4)] Dawnguard Invictors (max) [15] - Dawnguard Invictor Officer & Standard [4] - Soulless Escort (1) [1] Dawnguard Invictors (max) [15] - Dawnguard Invictor Officer & Standard [4] - Soulless Escort (1) [1]
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bluebeard
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Post by bluebeard on Jul 17, 2018 20:51:44 GMT
That thought behind Ossyan feating was to get the bonus die for your own models ranged damage. If it happens to catch a few enemies that's just icing. Was figuring you could cast spells needed then feat, and end activation by charging 11" up to maximize bubble. You need the enemy models in Ossyan’s CTRL range to get the bonus damage dice against them. Umm...well....crap. hahaha. Its too bad Vyros1 doesn't have a unit speed boost, makes me sad.
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isotope
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Post by isotope on Jul 17, 2018 20:52:19 GMT
Actually, with the speed this list provides you don't need the invictors CA. You could do something like this and if you go first the invictors could assault into them if they come more than 7" out of their deployment. Sentinels back that up with +2 armor and Hyperion can run turn 2 and then do an ancillary attack under feat.
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Post by isotope on Jul 17, 2018 20:52:37 GMT
Actually, with the speed this list provides you don't need the invictors CA. You could do something like this and if you go first the invictors could assault into them if they come more than 7" out of their deployment. Sentinels back that up with +2 armor and Hyperion can run turn 2 and then do an ancillary attack under feat. conflictchamber.com/#c5201b_-0XdUhIc49v3y3ymmmmmo313uRetribution Army - 74 / 75 points [Theme] Legions of Dawn !!! Your army contains CID entries. [Issyria 1] Issyria, Sibyl of Dawn [+29] - Hemera [16] - Hyperion [34] - Sylys Wyshnalyrr, the Seeker [0(4)] Arcanist Mechanik [2] Arcanist Mechanik [2] Dawnguard Invictors (max) [15] Dawnguard Invictors (max) [15] Dawnguard Sentinels (max) [18] - Dawnguard Sentinel Officer & Standard [0(4)] - Soulless Escort (1) [1]
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Post by etheric42 on Jul 18, 2018 2:12:23 GMT
The sentinels would like a scyir so they can charge through the invictors if necessary.
Also,the invictors probably want at least one ca for snipe. Is it worth downgrading hemera to a chimera?
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Post by onijet01 on Jul 18, 2018 2:28:57 GMT
The sentinels would like a scyir so they can charge through the invictors if necessary. Also,the invictors probably want at least one ca for snipe. Is it worth downgrading hemera to a chimera? Hemera's use for Issyria is more than just an arcnode. She maked Blinding Light cost 1 less to cast when arc'd and allows Issyria to Upkeep Unviable Resolve for free. Granting that frail Warcaster 2 extra focus a turn. Hemera also brings on herself Reposition [3], a critical Dispelling melee, is a back up heavy hitting warjack, and allows Marked Target (the +2 accuracy buff for ranged attacks) It would be highly illogical to get rid of those benifits for "Extended Fire" on a unit who's base range is 10 inches. Yes it would keep the unit safer for a turn but with a wall of meat and sentinals whats going to happen is. (Feat turn) Issyria arks blinding light through Hemera to debuff as many targets as possible. Aclilary Attacks Hyperions cannon under feat. Casts Crusader's Call. Invicors walk up shooting targets gaining bonus on attack rolls of +2 (blinding light or Marked Target) to +4 (both Marked Target and Blinding Light). Then army and Hemera (if she did not activate earluer in the turn) charge opponents and engage in a melee alpha.
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isotope
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Post by isotope on Jul 18, 2018 3:16:56 GMT
After playing hemera a bit ive learned that you get more mileage out of tramples and slams than charging with her since she only has one initial attack anways, any time you can trample or slam and take out 2 or more enemies it's more focus efficient
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