isotope
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Post by isotope on Jul 13, 2018 16:13:01 GMT
Listen buddy, I can shit my pants whenever and wherever I please. Long as you don't feel entitled to have a forum full of near strangers soothe you over it. Was watching some Rick and Morty on Hulu this morning and I found a quote that I really like from Season 3 Ep 4:
You know why, Rick? Because when you're an Ass-hole, it doesn't matter how right you are, nobody wants to give you the satisfaction.
I know. Everyone wants people they like to be right. That's why popular people are dumb.
And why your pretentious, poorly-written, high-budget friends back there can eat a double-decker shit sandwich.
Rick is my hero.
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Post by elladan52 on Jul 13, 2018 17:38:48 GMT
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bluebeard
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crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women
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Post by bluebeard on Jul 13, 2018 22:03:33 GMT
So, while watching the development stream a question sprung to mind regarding the trident. (Pulling a discusdion over from Isotopes CID thread ) Was it stated in the packet what the trident's job is? Or what was the mindset behind its creation? I think these are questions to consider when using it. Any shared results/experiences would be greatly appreciated!
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boozy
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Post by boozy on Jul 13, 2018 22:07:06 GMT
The new BE looks bonkers over-powered. If it makes it to the floor in this incarnation, it will be the most meta-bending model since MKII Haley2.
However, I've heard it mentioned before that PP as a practice likes to frontload OP models, then dial back on release. If I remember correctly, the DevTalk specificallu mentioned keeping a special eye on it.
Hopefully so. Otherwise, Ret will soon become synonymous with whichever 'caster runs double BE best.
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doopsie
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Post by doopsie on Jul 14, 2018 1:28:40 GMT
So goofy idea I'm kicking around. Tempted to test it out, but don't have enough huge bases.
Defenders of Ios Ossyan +28 Sylys 0 Hydra 15 Hydra 15 AFG 17 AFG 17 Trident 16 Trident 16 Mechanik 2 Mechanik 2 Lys Healer 3 Ghost Sniper 0 Ghost Sniper 0
I'm liking Ossyan for Tridents due to being able to hot-swap Fortune, getting a LOT of rerolled attacks, plus having Shatter Storm to deal with swarms of dudes. Hydras are there to provide big, ARM-cracking attacks but could swap for Manticores. Healer and Snipers are there just because I got room for 3 solos, and those seem good/fun. But yeah....could be fun.
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bluebeard
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crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women
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Post by bluebeard on Jul 14, 2018 1:56:58 GMT
You can always use cardboard cut outs for proxy bases. According to the dev talk, you won't be seeing the Trident for several months yet. But it would be interesting to see how your list performs. And would help the CID
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Post by onijet01 on Jul 14, 2018 6:55:54 GMT
So just relized this.
House Ellowuyr Swordsman can now be def 16 vs range constantly thanks to the cid Artificers force barrier
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Jul 14, 2018 7:05:23 GMT
So just relized this. House Ellowuyr Swordsman can now be def 16 vs range constantly thanks to the cid Artificers force barrier You would have to be playing outside of theme to do it
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Post by onijet01 on Jul 14, 2018 9:30:41 GMT
So just relized this. House Ellowuyr Swordsman can now be def 16 vs range constantly thanks to the cid Artificers force barrier You would have to be playing outside of theme to do it Well yah thats a given but sou ds fun right? Def 17 on melee units at arm 13 vs blast damage. Also for forges of war we can now take dawnguard scyr as he is a jack martial. Vemgence in that theme?
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Post by falkman on Jul 14, 2018 9:34:42 GMT
You would have to be playing outside of theme to do it Well yah thats a given but sou ds fun right? Def 17 on melee units at arm 13 vs blast damage. Also for forges of war we can now take dawnguard scyr as he is a jack martial. Vemgence in that theme? Jack marshals are not battlegroup controllers, so the Scyir cannot be taken in Forges.
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Post by onijet01 on Jul 14, 2018 10:07:39 GMT
My bad
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Post by creamster on Jul 14, 2018 11:14:43 GMT
Interesting CID changes so far. Goreshade4 looks crazy good now, so will be testing him this weekend in dawnguard theme.
The only thing I cannot get my head around is what role the Gorgon plays even with a point drop. The dev discussion mentioned no theory but I still don't know why I would ever test this model considering siren is straight up better. Is there a niche forges list that I am missing?
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germanicus
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Post by germanicus on Jul 14, 2018 13:34:59 GMT
Doesn't look like it... there've been quite a few tests with the Gorgon and most are wondering: why wouldn't I just take another Griffon (if V2) or a Chimera?
The Gorgon is STILL an over-glorified potholed speed bump with delusions of being a roadblock, 8pts or otherwise. I'd rather his gun had the Stranglehold effect.
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isotope
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Post by isotope on Jul 14, 2018 13:47:17 GMT
Doesn't look like it... there've been quite a few tests with the Gorgon and most are wondering: why wouldn't I just take another Griffon (if V2) or a Chimera? The Gorgon is STILL an over-glorified potholed speed bump with delusions of being a roadblock, 8pts or otherwise. I'd rather his gun had the Stranglehold effect. What if it's gun got more shots?
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germanicus
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No jokes round ear...
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Post by germanicus on Jul 14, 2018 14:10:54 GMT
Doesn't look like it... there've been quite a few tests with the Gorgon and most are wondering: why wouldn't I just take another Griffon (if V2) or a Chimera? The Gorgon is STILL an over-glorified potholed speed bump with delusions of being a roadblock, 8pts or otherwise. I'd rather his gun had the Stranglehold effect. What if it's gun got more shots? In all honesty... gimme Force Hold instead of Force Lock and I reckon problem solved. If more shots, it'd have to be ROF, not Reload, as there's already enough competition for Empower from other jacks who would probably have a better use for it. Boost-buy-boost is kinda underwhelming.
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