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Post by drakkenblut on Jun 30, 2018 18:08:23 GMT
Ever since Craelix broke the mold, I have been wondering will PP use the Succubus chassis to introduce occupational solos in other infantry too...
So, Hex Hunter Succubus: Has three Hex Razors (one free hand to cast spells), has Necrophage to have the potential of three spells per turn, has three offensive Legion spells, say the two from Bayal plus Spine Burst, low Magic Ability, say 5, but gets +1 for every Hex Hunter in his CMD (maybe gets +1 to damage with magic and/or his hex razors too...). Def 16, P+S 12, MAT8, ARM 14, Stealth or Prowl, AD, etc. (basically all HH stats increased, like Craelix got increased Archer stats.)
Legionnaire Succubus: Gets a four handed long sword! P+S 14, WM, High MAT (say 8), Def 13, ARM 18 (imagine a heavy armored Succubus... metal spikes on edges of its scales, scale mail hanging from his sides.). Gets +1 to ARM, STR, and MAT per every Legionnaire in B2B with him, and every Legionnaire in B2B with him gets that too (but only once). Note, the bases for Succ and Legionnaire are small so max. 6 Legos in B2B. He should be able to attack through his own men, and has Girded. Farilors minifeat won't work on him, and he doesnt get CMA, since he is not a part of the unit. He does get Righteous Vengeance, though.
Sounds plausible... Anyway, including these two types may bring back the units in question on the tabletop.
Thoughts? Other Succubus ideas? Banshee Succubus? Spawning Vessel Succubus? Three Succubi unit? Succubus adjunct, like Trollkin Sorcerer or Void fish thing?
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Post by davycannonhound on Jul 1, 2018 21:50:10 GMT
I could definitely see a Hex Hunter succubus. The legionnaire one seems a bit more random, to be honest.
That said, the collective buff system seems a bit... powerful. These would be expensive solos, to say the least.
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Post by piedpiperwtf on Jul 1, 2018 23:26:09 GMT
Blight Wasp succubus?
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Post by drakkenblut on Jul 2, 2018 12:30:53 GMT
Blight wasp is a beast, Succubus is a Nyss transformed by magic...
I do not see this as an OP TBH. Both those units are underpowered and need a boost, and a solo needs to have an interaction with said units. Maybe it can be done better, but even these versions would be fine with a 5-6 pt price tag, and possibly free in a suitable Theme. Do note that it would be very corner case to use the bonuses for both these versions.
I do not see the randomness in these. Look how different Craelix is to the original Succubus... no magic powers, but leaks poison in creative ways, and jumped from no weapons to two weapon proficiencies, wielding them all at the same time. These ideas are way less random.
Come on, we need more ideas...
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Post by drakkenblut on Jul 2, 2018 12:51:59 GMT
Actually, the Legionnaire Succubus may have an ability to return a Lego to life, it would not be OP. Should be funny to use with Incubi - a monster came out of you, but here's another monster that will revitalize what is left of your body... good as new. Or, if you include a Spawning vessel in the mix, you died, the Acolyte took some of your organs that will fit in nicely on the infant Shredder, and now you are whole again.
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Post by Lanz on Jul 3, 2018 17:47:02 GMT
I could definitely see a hex hunter succubus. The whole four-armed naga is a popular ancient fantasy/mythology trope, and a spell-wielding naga with 4 big scimitar-like weapons would definitely be a striking and thematic visual.
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Post by piedpiperwtf on Jul 4, 2018 19:41:46 GMT
An Incubus succubus that collects corpse tokens and spawns incubi within it's command
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Post by Lanz on Jul 4, 2018 22:22:25 GMT
An Incubus succubus that collects corpse tokens and spawns incubi within it's command  a hex hunter succubus solo with the afflictor's Infection rule on a spell. |
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Post by drakkenblut on Jul 6, 2018 15:48:15 GMT
An anti magic succubus solo that erases Focus and upkeeps on impact, has Purification etc. May Fly and be a Banshee Succubus, it would fit. Say it screams that Banshee scream, but autohits and at low POW, like the Rotterhorn Griffon, and that scream prevents spellcasting.
A fire oriented succ solo that hands out attack type Fire to models, grants immunity to fire, can cast fire based spell/s (I would have said hellfire, but it turns out it is not fire type), can make an ignited model suffer Fire, like Kallus2 Feat, but just one model.
A chaneller Succ solo, attached, has a big chunk of Spell Martyr crystal in her multiple hands (not in her chest, although PP can go the macabre route and have this Succ as dead as Spell Martyrs too), has Spell Slave, can boost her magics in exchange for d3 damage, once per game her Warlock channels all her spells through her, with +2 on to hit and dmg, and then Succubus is removed from the table (she did not die like Spell Martyr, just exausted)
A healer Succ solo, has Heal (applicable to infantry, we do not have that in Legion), hands out immunities, Tough
A beast herder Succ solo, (anything I conjure up about this one is a copy of Circle wilder, if someone has a better idea, please note it)
A Spawning Vessel Succ CA, when a vesse gets Corpse tokens it is multiplied by d3, *action, spawn another Lesser (catch is, this is during Sp Vess activation, so Lunch Ladies have to kill those Corpse tokens to do this), Spawning vessel capacity is increased to 5 (if it were 6, the catch above wouldn't be valid).
Blighted wildlife herder succ solo. For now we have Rotwings as blighted wildlife (maybe ulks too in Raptors, Anyssa and Lyl3 if allowed), but there could be more. So someone to give them bonuses/summon them (as in spend a corpse token, d3 more rotwings join the unit)/protect them. Has feathery wings and lousy hygiene, to fit in with her flock.
Fury manipulator succ solo. *attack, against all models with Fury/Focus within range, including your warlock, if hits you drain one point of Fury. *action, spend Fury to cast magic (a selection of three spells), also may spend fury to buy and boost. Lousy weapons, lest it outshines Forsaken (maybe the same tail Absy2 has, in order to steal more Fury?). Can cut for Fury (OP?). As is noticeable, it can take Fury and use it, but not both in the same turn.
Moar!
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Post by drakkenblut on Jul 6, 2018 16:12:12 GMT
Absy 3 may have the same general form, but be in a warlock unit with 2 flying Succubi.
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Post by drakkenblut on Jul 6, 2018 18:27:52 GMT
An Incubus succubus that collects corpse tokens and spawns incubi within it's command Now that is an idea! |
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Post by davycannonhound on Jul 9, 2018 18:13:25 GMT
Absy 3 may have the same general form, but be in a warlock unit with 2 flying Succubi. Dude. I will homebrew this. |
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Post by drakkenblut on Jul 9, 2018 21:49:54 GMT
Absy 3 may have the same general form, but be in a warlock unit with 2 flying Succubi. Dude. I will homebrew this. Go for it, dude. Nice to see some ideas taking root. |
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Post by davycannonhound on Jul 9, 2018 22:37:43 GMT
Dude. I will homebrew this. Go for it, dude. Nice to see some ideas taking root. Honestly I've already homebrewed a Legionnaire Succubus (WA), a Hex Hunter Succubus (WA), and a Spawning Vessel Succubus (UA). Trying to figure out what to do with Abby right now, cause all I'm picturing is Abby2 with like 2 Succubus attachment solos, which sounds boring. |
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Post by gordo on Jul 10, 2018 3:27:00 GMT
I sort of see them as a non unit specific WA, like the Retribution Soulless Escort, doing the reverse of Magic Static for friendly spells... Letting you target the unit with spells like Fury at longer than normal ranges.
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a hex hunter succubus solo with the afflictor's Infection rule on a spell.