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Post by Evola on Jun 30, 2018 6:28:46 GMT
Hi folks
I'm coming back to Legion again after some time in Khador mostly playing Strakhov 1. I love Overrun. Just love it.
So is there any viable Kallus 2 lists with Golab out there? And no double Chosen lists. My wallet can't handle that 🤣
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Post by Evola on Jun 30, 2018 15:00:22 GMT
So might this be a thing?
Kallus, Devastation of Everblight - WB: +28 - Ammok the Truthbearer - PC: 4 - Carnivean - PC: 18 (Battlegroup Points Used: 18) - Carnivean - PC: 18 (Battlegroup Points Used: 10) - Golab - PC: 17 - Naga Nightlurker - PC: 8
Warmonger War Chief - PC: 5 Feralgeist - PC: 2
Blighted Ogrun Warmongers - Leader & 4 Grunts: 13 - Gorag Rotteneye - PC: 6 Hellmouth - Hellmouth & 3 Tentacles: 0 Hellmouth - Hellmouth & 3 Tentacles: 0 Blighted Rotwings - Leader & 9 Grunts: 12
THEME: Primal Terrors
The Hellmouths do their thing as blockers.
Warmongers midfield to Frontline.
Carniveans as midfield.
Naga do Naga things
Rotwings as backup, flank hunters. Primary Battle lust target
What your thoughts? And no. No Chosen. I My wallet can't handle them.
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Post by davycannonhound on Jul 1, 2018 21:53:29 GMT
So might this be a thing? Kallus, Devastation of Everblight - WB: +28 - Ammok the Truthbearer - PC: 4 - Carnivean - PC: 18 (Battlegroup Points Used: 18) - Carnivean - PC: 18 (Battlegroup Points Used: 10) - Golab - PC: 17 - Naga Nightlurker - PC: 8 Warmonger War Chief - PC: 5 Feralgeist - PC: 2 Blighted Ogrun Warmongers - Leader & 4 Grunts: 13 - Gorag Rotteneye - PC: 6 Hellmouth - Hellmouth & 3 Tentacles: 0 Hellmouth - Hellmouth & 3 Tentacles: 0 Blighted Rotwings - Leader & 9 Grunts: 12 THEME: Primal Terrors The Hellmouths do their thing as blockers. Warmongers midfield to Frontline. Carniveans as midfield. Naga do Naga things Rotwings as backup, flank hunters. Primary Battle lust target What your thoughts? And no. No Chosen. I My wallet can't handle them. I would put battle lust on the warmongers. They are a lot more accurate. You'll either be relying on Kallus' spell, or the Carnivean's poorer stats to catch things on fire for the feat. See if there is a way for you to re-organize your warbeast list to fit in an Archangel. A tall order I know, but it would be a lot better for your feat.
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Post by Evola on Jul 2, 2018 6:39:39 GMT
Both Carniveans for the AA maby?
Carniveans, Naga and Feralgeist for an AA and a Bloodseer. Humn.. I think we are on to something here
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Post by systemdown on Jul 2, 2018 10:18:36 GMT
I think both variants have merit - the Archangel list has better feat enablement and better damage output from the continuous fire rolls; but the Carnivean list has better magic weapons access and far superior overrun options which will make it far harder for your opponent to block all then vectors.
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Post by dirtyharrypotter on Jul 2, 2018 10:45:31 GMT
I think an AA+bloodseer setup asks for more fire attacks then this list will end up with.
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Post by Evola on Jul 2, 2018 11:27:07 GMT
I think an AA+bloodseer setup asks for more fire attacks then this list will end up with. I did some theory playing last night (put the models in the table and shuffled the and some against imaginary opponent lists and yes I believe yngre AA and Seer needs more fire shooting to be optimal. Anysuggestions? Thoughts?
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Post by ForEver_Blight on Jul 2, 2018 11:58:40 GMT
I've wanted to play test the fire gunline with Kallus. But in my opinion if you're doing that it's focus point is a full unit of croak raiders. Then you can back that up with the AA, Angel/Ravagores.
But I don't own said frogs. So it's been a low priority for me.
Also Kallus is not a gunline caster so it just seems wrong on principle.
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Post by drakkenblut on Jul 3, 2018 20:24:27 GMT
From the @build an army around AAs animus thread@
Actually, given the Kallus2 Feat, AA animus may have a surprising place in his army. He gets to activate the fire continuous effect twice, so say AA shoots and ignites a bunch of stuff, Croaks Oil and ignite a bunch of stuff, Kallus comes front and center and feats, and everything ignited burns with boosted POW14s. Kallus casts Battle lust on his Chosen, who launch onto burning enemy units with a POW14 boosted Impact hit, and POW15 double boosted strike. Opponents turn, fires burn once more and inflict POW 14, boosted.
Now that is three boosted POW 14 and one double boosted POW 15 on every ignited target, that is avg 22,5 damage on ARM 20, the initial damage that ignited the unit and possible multiple Impact hits discounted, so this will cripple a line of 5 Khador jacks easily (one Chosen per jack), all that is left is to clean them up next turn. It can be played in PT theme, so Golab may come into play, interfering with any repairs or healing, and its animus and Overrun make a nice spell combo that can move it or Kallus twice both before and after activation.
No pressing need for a Bloodseer... nice. Maybe it can fit in a 50pt army even. The only problem is no ARM buff on the Chosen, but I suppose they can be held back, expecting the big push from the feat. Got to playtest this one when I get the Chosen next month.
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Post by apoc2148 on Jul 10, 2018 12:28:19 GMT
I've ran Kallus2 a bunch with croak raiders and have yet to be unsatisfied with their performance. They've got high enough rat to hit most things and the range to hit most things first. Easiest way to get them in would be to drop a carnivean for a full unit + 2 points of something else, maybe a couple spell martyrs for flag holding or Kallus's fire spell.
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