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Post by macdaddy on Jul 3, 2018 19:46:07 GMT
Oh duh, I forgot your army was in EI. Never mind! 8s to hit is perfectly acceptable and range is hardly any issue as with RtW you are looking at 11" threat vs a unit that really wants to play forward. Plus their package requires A&H or it can't do squat to the Repenters. Really can't wait for Sevy0 to come out. I have never appreciated blessed more than on Pow 15 flamethrowers Me either, He enables so many list ideas I have and is so worth the free solo slot + jack package. There is a Cyrenia List I have that uses him with Fire of Salvation and its pretty great
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Post by Hashmal on Jul 3, 2018 21:05:49 GMT
You hear the leak from LnL that has Fire with Divine Inspiration as his Bond with Kreoss?
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Post by macdaddy on Jul 3, 2018 22:01:48 GMT
You hear the leak from LnL that has Fire with Divine Inspiration as his Bond with Kreoss? Wut? He was already great
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Post by Hashmal on Jul 3, 2018 22:10:46 GMT
Yeah. Don't ask me, I am just running with it. And laughing my way to the bank.
Apparently Soles was playing EI at Lock and Load and the ruleset he was using had Fire with Divine Inspiration as his Bond, not Dispel.
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Post by macdaddy on Jul 3, 2018 22:23:45 GMT
Yeah. Don't ask me, I am just running with it. And laughing my way to the bank. Apparently Soles was playing EI at Lock and Load and the ruleset he was using had Fire with Divine Inspiration as his Bond, not Dispel. Oh that’s why. Soles is the reason BI in Cryx exists. Wouldn’t be surprised if other things came out a bit overturned if he was playing God he’s an idiot lol
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Post by groedius on Jul 3, 2018 23:34:51 GMT
Yeah. Don't ask me, I am just running with it. And laughing my way to the bank. Apparently Soles was playing EI at Lock and Load and the ruleset he was using had Fire with Divine Inspiration as his Bond, not Dispel. Oh that’s why. Soles is the reason BI in Cryx exists. Wouldn’t be surprised if other things came out a bit overturned if he was playing God he’s an idiot lol The change to fire sounds great though and if other things came out overturned I wouldn't be too upset although I am pretty happy with the changes we got with the CID. I do believe severius0 is definitely solid and I think that could warrant further discussion of its own definitely looking forward to getting the model. I've found that rtw is amazing with the repentor package although I feel that the eye of menoth is amazing.
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Post by greytemplar on Jul 4, 2018 23:49:29 GMT
Well if he keeps Dispel I'm not gonna complain, but I'd hate to lose it for Divine Inspiration. His Imprint also kinda makes Divine Inspiration semi-redundant.
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Post by cgdeth on Jul 5, 2018 1:18:24 GMT
conflictchamber.com/#c2201b_-0OeUdY24243qjCjC3Ee4dY3r3r3r3C2_Protectorate Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] The Faithful Masses [Durst 1] Anson Durst, Rock of the Faith [+28] - Indictor [15] - Templar [15] - Templar [15] - Hierophant [3] Champion of the Order of the Wall [8] Champion of the Order of the Wall [8] High Paladin Dartan Vilmon [0(6)] Initiate Tristan Durant [4] - Indictor [15] Paladin of the Order of the Wall [4] Paladin of the Order of the Wall [4] Paladin of the Order of the Wall [4] The Covenant of Menoth [4] Choir of Menoth (min) [4] Here's My Take on Durst ( I call it THE WALL) I had some trouble with scenario but a boundless charge 3 FOC Templar under battle into Irusk wiffed all of its attacks and I lost on scenario the next turn. This list was a massive pain in the MoW list with 2 chariots and a conquest.
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Post by Hashmal on Jul 5, 2018 15:24:19 GMT
Well if he keeps Dispel I'm not gonna complain, but I'd hate to lose it for Divine Inspiration. His Imprint also kinda makes Divine Inspiration semi-redundant. The issue with Dispel on a Warjack that can be taken ubiquitously now in EI is that Fire is already Blessed in theme - ergo Dispel only works defensively (to strip something like Rebuke) or offensively for infantry (in which case Fire is either throwing an attack off into a unit or has likely already killed what he was punching). It isn't Skornergy (I hate that phrase) but it has a very limited range of applicability likely to come up only outside of EI. I'd argue that Divine Inspiration and his Imprint turn him into a scary accurate melee threat. If only Kreoss3 still had Road to War, he'd be positively horrifying!
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Post by macdaddy on Jul 5, 2018 16:24:16 GMT
Hashmal HoF on him is amaze balls. It’s not just accuracy it makes him hit ridiculously hard.
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Post by groedius on Jul 5, 2018 17:59:46 GMT
Well if he keeps Dispel I'm not gonna complain, but I'd hate to lose it for Divine Inspiration. His Imprint also kinda makes Divine Inspiration semi-redundant. The issue with Dispel on a Warjack that can be taken ubiquitously now in EI is that Fire is already Blessed in theme - ergo Dispel only works defensively (to strip something like Rebuke) or offensively for infantry (in which case Fire is either throwing an attack off into a unit or has likely already killed what he was punching). It isn't Skornergy (I hate that phrase) but it has a very limited range of applicability likely to come up only outside of EI. I'd argue that Divine Inspiration and his Imprint turn him into a scary accurate melee threat. If only Kreoss3 still had Road to War, he'd be positively horrifying! If I am correct with the new theme rules you can include him in an army in theme with kreoss but he doesn't have to be in kreoss battlegroup so why not use EI theme with K3 and using him under savvy0 for road to war ?
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Post by Hashmal on Jul 5, 2018 19:21:58 GMT
You can totally do that. And probably should. The only downside is that if he is not within Kreoss's battlegroup, he does not get the Bond. Doesn't make the idea suck, though. I've been considering it heavily for EI armies in general.
Edit: Also, the theme rules look to be changing to allow Fire into all EI armies, regardless of whether Kreoss is present or not. Just clarifying. In order to get the Divine Inspiration Bond, Fire *must* be in Kreoss' battlegroup.
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Post by Hashmal on Jul 5, 2018 19:25:31 GMT
Hashmal HoF on him is amaze balls. It’s not just accuracy it makes him hit ridiculously hard. I can guarantee I will not make friends when I launch an Ignited FoS into something. P+S 22 with Divine Inspiration is the stuff of dreams. Also, potential 14" of threat with Assail, Righteous Vengeance, and a free Charge at P+S 20 DI. MmmmMMM.
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Post by macdaddy on Jul 5, 2018 19:29:14 GMT
Hashmal HoF on him is amaze balls. It’s not just accuracy it makes him hit ridiculously hard. I can guarantee I will not make friends when I launch an Ignited FoS into something. P+S 22 with Divine Inspiration is the stuff of dreams. Also, potential 14" of threat with Assail, Righteous Vengeance, and a free Charge at P+S 20 DI. MmmmMMM. That’s like 50ish Damage to a Khador heavy.
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Post by Hashmal on Jul 5, 2018 19:32:13 GMT
My only complaint is I have to reorient my Kreoss3 list now. I was taking a Reckoner and Redeemer in his BG, playing 1 point down. If FoS is released as-is, I would be two down now! Dang maths.
Edit: To take this to Durst, FoS would be a really powerful option on Durst or Sevy0 in a Durst list. Decel helps protect him on the way in and a combo of Righteous Vengeance, Road to War, and Boundless Charge means this guy threatens *far* (17"). With Pathfinder, to boot. It's a burst of speed I'm not sure many would expect coming from a Durst list and allows you to grab something valuable before the opponent is ready for it.
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