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Post by ForEver_Blight on Jun 22, 2018 17:02:34 GMT
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Post by fallenexile on Jun 22, 2018 17:19:14 GMT
Unbreakable wall? I hope their armor is like 14 to balance. Armor 26 for the middle dude is probably good enough.
(+6) (+12) (+6) ___ (+9) (+9)
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martini
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Post by martini on Jun 22, 2018 17:27:27 GMT
Maybe its a 3 man unit.
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moquan
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Post by moquan on Jun 22, 2018 17:31:09 GMT
Unit has +3 arm if 2 are b2b, +6 if 3 are b2b. The longer the wall, the stronger it is.
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spideredd
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Post by spideredd on Jun 22, 2018 17:42:44 GMT
These guys + Vilmon + Champion make me happy
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moquan
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Post by moquan on Jun 22, 2018 17:46:38 GMT
These guys + Vilmon + Champion make me happy Add Harby and profit
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Post by gargs454 on Jun 22, 2018 18:08:09 GMT
Question is though is it each other model in the unit B2B with that model, or just each other model that's B2B? i.e., you line 10 of them up in a row, its still just +6. Bunch them together and you might be able to get 3 or 4 touching the same model (haven't really played around with that). Because yeah, that's a huge difference.
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blakeh1
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Post by blakeh1 on Jun 22, 2018 18:38:05 GMT
Yeah, sounds like they are a 3 man unit.
So at the most, it is a + 6 ARM bonus.
If ARM 15, that is basically going to be the same buff as Vilmon/Paladins in Stone and Mortar stance, but without having to sack movement or action
The trade-off being, you kill the middle guy, the arm buff effectively goes away, or at least drops by 3 for the 2 remaining guys where as the bonus for Stone And Mortar cannot be removed/reduced
That's not very game breaking and seems balanced
The real factor determining usefulness will be point cost
Although under a Defender's Ward caster, they are going to be hard to remove
It is going to be nice to have a units like this in the Faithful Masses theme
Are they small or medium based?
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Post by macdaddy on Jun 22, 2018 18:47:20 GMT
They also get righteous Vengence and girded so paladin lists could become a thing in FM.
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Post by ForEver_Blight on Jun 22, 2018 18:59:38 GMT
ah, sorry. It did show 3 small based infantry models. But they looked very same~y. So I would guess 3 man non-character unit Also, you make a triangle. that way all 3 models are b2b. +9 +6 arm always.
[edit] reading is key
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Post by macdaddy on Jun 22, 2018 19:11:51 GMT
Even if it’s only a 3 man unit. I like the idea of a defensive pally unit. I’m a tad concerned about their usefulness as they die. Thematically I feel pally’s should get more juiced as thier buddies die. They have halberds...so maybe they will be pow 14 WM like villmon?
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Post by ForEver_Blight on Jun 22, 2018 19:19:41 GMT
Thematically I feel pally’s should get more juiced as thier buddies die. Stepping on exemplar toes... I don't think they need another spin on battle driven.
But who knows what level of offense they are supposed to provide.
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blakeh1
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Post by blakeh1 on Jun 22, 2018 19:35:15 GMT
ah, sorry. It did show 3 small based infantry models. But they looked very same~y. So I would guess 3 man non-character unit Also, you make a triangle. that way all 3 models are b2b. +9 arm always. Unless I understanding it wrong, it says for +3 ARM each other model in the unit, meaning, you can't get the bonus for itself, only other models. i.e. in a 3 man unit in a triangle, you can only touch 2 other models for + 6 max
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Post by streetpizza on Jun 22, 2018 19:40:08 GMT
They also get righteous Vengence and girded so paladin lists could become a thing in FM. Aren't they already a thing?
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Post by mydnight on Jun 22, 2018 20:02:47 GMT
See (to those who were lamenting the Champ's girded)...girded makes a lot of sense on this unit.
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