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Post by streetpizza on Jun 23, 2018 0:33:17 GMT
Iona may also be the caster that can make druids work. Prowl in the clouds and then give them Phantasm. That could have some serious potential for SM. Mist riders would take sure foot very well and the beasts having abbatoir helps with the armor cracking issue. She isn't a blackclad... so, no SM for her. %^&( mother &^%#%@ damnit.
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Post by elshinare on Jun 23, 2018 0:49:55 GMT
I really like the idea behind the twins. That seems like it could be really fun. Is no one happy about +2def and no KD tough male tharn? Def 15 normally and if the starts align def 17 if they are standing in a forest. Phantasm on blood trackers anyone? That's just such a NO to shooting it's not even funny. I hope the well isn't on a huge base. but it's a structure I'm sure... Technically you could do that with Krueger1 from shooting but +3 Def. Shaman already gives no KD. What is fantasm? It’s a structure no doubt. And it looks like it has 0 focus because themes. Maybe shaman loses no kd and gains "Kill them all" buffs?
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Post by macdaddy on Jun 23, 2018 0:52:19 GMT
She isn't a blackclad... so, no SM for her. %^&( mother &^%#%@ damnit. Add another reason why secret masters sucks to the list
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Post by gobber on Jun 23, 2018 4:36:50 GMT
Phantasm currently exists on Shae
Cost 2, 6" range, Upkeep:
When target friendly Faction model/unit is targeted by a ranged attack, the attack suffers -5 RNG. Models are not affected while out of formation.
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Post by bloodhawk on Jun 23, 2018 5:01:26 GMT
Ah, gotcha, phantasm sounds solid then. Wish it wasn't an upkeep, but we will see how it plays out
What if the well of orboros was an in faction liason unit. Meaning you take it and you can take bones models in another theme. That would be a cool option that would allow tharn and constructs to co exist.
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Post by gobber on Jun 23, 2018 5:14:01 GMT
Ah, gotcha, phantasm sounds solid then. Wish it wasn't an upkeep, but we will see how it plays out Tharn and Pirate CIDs are next so there's a chance?
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Post by Lord_Randall on Jun 23, 2018 7:51:59 GMT
Phanthasm on ravagers and surfoot on dodging trakers is a ballbusting combination and enable some strong skirmishing with quickwork
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Post by jisidro on Jun 23, 2018 9:02:01 GMT
Skirmish without repo is a joke... The tactical applications of reposition are so vast I don't see how Circle can be "denied" the ability and have anything but troops narrow focus troops.
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Post by Lord_Randall on Jun 23, 2018 10:27:32 GMT
Skirmish without repo is a joke... The tactical applications of reposition are so vast I don't see how Circle can be "denied" the ability and have anything but troops narrow focus troops. I can bet now that trakers are getting repo back trough CID
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Post by macdaddy on Jun 23, 2018 12:34:15 GMT
Phanthasm on ravagers and surfoot on dodging trakers is a ballbusting combination and enable some strong skirmishing with quickwork Maybe not ball busting. But certainly a middle finger to gunlines.
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Post by bloodhawk on Jun 23, 2018 15:17:28 GMT
It is a good combo no doubt. My only concern is that you have 1 unit of trackers in front of 2 ravager units. One ravager unit has phantasm. The enemy shoots the other unit? I need to play with it to see it in practice, I just question in my head how useful that is.
Now as a way to keep the tharn caster chick alive, that is an excellent use of the spell.
I am very excited to try it out though.
Side note, I would be shocked if trackers dont get native repo 3 back minimum. We should all make sure that is something we keep our eye on in the CID.
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Post by Lord_Randall on Jun 23, 2018 15:33:38 GMT
It is a good combo no doubt. My only concern is that you have 1 unit of trackers in front of 2 ravager units. One ravager unit has phantasm. The enemy shoots the other unit? I need to play with it to see it in practice, I just question in my head how useful that is. Now as a way to keep the tharn caster chick alive, that is an excellent use of the spell. I am very excited to try it out though. Side note, I would be shocked if trackers dont get native repo 3 back minimum. We should all make sure that is something we keep our eye on in the CID. you have to play 1xtrakers, 1xravagers, 2x weavers with Iona.
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Post by bloodhawk on Jun 23, 2018 16:15:30 GMT
That would certainly work, but I don't love being forced into that.
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Post by sirk on Jun 24, 2018 21:59:25 GMT
Bloodtrackers should really become FA2. There is no reason now for them to be FA1 and this would increase the design space inside Tharn subfaction.
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Post by streetpizza on Jun 25, 2018 14:04:54 GMT
It is a good combo no doubt. My only concern is that you have 1 unit of trackers in front of 2 ravager units. One ravager unit has phantasm. The enemy shoots the other unit? I need to play with it to see it in practice, I just question in my head how useful that is. Now as a way to keep the tharn caster chick alive, that is an excellent use of the spell. I am very excited to try it out though. Side note, I would be shocked if trackers dont get native repo 3 back minimum. We should all make sure that is something we keep our eye on in the CID. you have to play 1xtrakers, 1xravagers, 2x weavers with Iona. 1x ravagers 1x trackcer and 1x wolfriders or bloodpack? I'm sure those two units will come out of CID just fine.
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