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Post by macdaddy on Oct 4, 2018 2:02:06 GMT
Woot! That looked brutal! What do you think about something like this? conflictchamber.com/#c8201b_-0j5CmKmW4QmIjXmSmj5wmj5wCircle Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] The Devourer's Host !!! Your army contains CID entries. [Baldur 2] Baldur the Stonesoul [+30] - Ghetorix [19] - Loki [19] - Megalith [20] Lord of the Feast [0(6)] Boil Master & Spirit Cauldron [5] Bríghid & Caul [7] Tharn Ravagers (max) [15] - Tharn Ravager Chieftain [0(5)] Tharn Ravagers (max) [15] - Tharn Ravager Chieftain [5] I think you are going to want a well for Baldur2 with both ravager units. It might be even worth dropping megs for....12" control trying to catch the ravagers in your feat can be difficult. Could be wrong though, and I really like megs as a heavy. I also am not sure if the list does much offensively. Pow 15's are mediocre, and Loki is not exactly a beater. Megs caps at Pow 17 too which can cause issues. Potentially a good gunline and infantry drop though. Especially since arm18 steady tough with rapid healing sounds atrocious for the one turn you have it. Also, arm 20 caul....hehe I was actually thinking just ditch Devo host and go CotW with him. conflictchamber.com/#c8201b_-0W5C4QmOg45g5gfI5hecmO5f5fCircle Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Call of the Wild !!! Your army contains CID entries. [Baldur 2] Baldur the Stonesoul [+30] - Megalith [20] - Storm Raptor [34] Blackclad Stoneshaper [3] Blackclad Wayfarer [0(4)] Blackclad Wayfarer [0(4)] Bog Trog Mist Speaker [4] Lord of the Feast [0(6)] Una the Falconer [4] - Storm Raptor [34] Shifting Stones [3] Shifting Stones [3] Raptors sitting at arm 21, both ignore clouds, one has guardian beast to leverage disrupto beak. The list laughs at guns of all shapes and sizes and shreds infantry.
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Post by jisidro on Oct 4, 2018 9:02:18 GMT
Think you want the Tharn attachment with B2, it's an extra Roots. The double Raptor list looks like scenario bait... unless it can leverage the pulse really well, I think the raptors are going to get plucked
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Post by Trollock on Oct 4, 2018 12:07:44 GMT
Woot! That looked brutal! What do you think about something like this? conflictchamber.com/#c8201b_-0j5CmKmW4QmIjXmSmj5wmj5wCircle Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] The Devourer's Host !!! Your army contains CID entries. [Baldur 2] Baldur the Stonesoul [+30] - Ghetorix [19] - Loki [19] - Megalith [20] Lord of the Feast [0(6)] Boil Master & Spirit Cauldron [5] Bríghid & Caul [7] Tharn Ravagers (max) [15] - Tharn Ravager Chieftain [0(5)] Tharn Ravagers (max) [15] - Tharn Ravager Chieftain [5] Do you value megalith that high? Hes only pow 17 in this list, and you can already cast roots and a wall just fine on two heavies. His geomancy will basically always be used on himself, right?
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Post by jisidro on Oct 4, 2018 12:44:26 GMT
Baldur HAS to campo something, 13/20s don't survive.
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Post by Trollock on Oct 4, 2018 16:22:35 GMT
Baldur HAS to campo something, 13/20s don't survive. I didnt feel threatened ever in the two games i played, and i didnt root him. He casts a root and a wall and the shaman casts the other root. Then you can camp 2. Granted i didnt play against any dangerous assassins and assassination is definitely the weakness of the list, but i think the solution is to blick LoS and to stay back rather than buff Baldur. You CAN stack roots and spiny though for ARM 22 if you feel that is better than camping, especially on the feat turn 8)
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Post by streetpizza on Oct 4, 2018 16:49:32 GMT
Megalith adds some RFP for non-living models through Crevasse. That could help into ghost fleet and the like but I'm not sure if that's more utility than star crossed provides.
Would very much depend on what your pair is.
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Post by Forsaken on Oct 4, 2018 19:38:42 GMT
I feel like Megs is worth having. As much as I hate to say it maybe downgrade Ghetorix to a riphorn (who is pretty survivable with roots) and finagle yourself a Ravager Shaman. Now you have magic weapons through him and Megs.
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Post by belgarath112 on Oct 4, 2018 20:03:40 GMT
Could such a Bricklist can play into Legion? (not Anamag, eAbby for example)
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Post by macdaddy on Oct 4, 2018 20:15:43 GMT
Trollock even if you don’t feel threatened, that extra roots could be the difference between you casting rock wall or not, or getting more roots out. You also get crevasse, a mat fixer and healing for Baldur. You could also just take the blood shaman if you stick with Debo host though. jisidro depends. If it’s my gunline/cloudwall list it should do fine. My off list can handle things like PT and Ossrum
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Post by Trollock on Oct 4, 2018 20:22:14 GMT
Could such a Bricklist can play into Legion? (not Anamag, eAbby for example) There is only one way to find out
I sort of played two more games today. My opponent had a new jank-tastic Bart construction revolving around three Rovers (for ARM 23), an avalancher on thor (to knock down things) and a Freebooter on Gastonne (to take advantage of knocked down things). We played two rounds then agreed that this would not be a game. He cant do anything to my list.
I had removed Snapjaw and gobbers for B&C, and a well (who brought in a shaman to ignore barts feat hehe). I had exchanged the Whitemane for another WR Champion. The changes didnt really matter, and the game probably says more about his list than mine, but one thing is clear. If you do not have the tools, my list is an absolute ballbuster.
Next game we decided that i should play another list (as he couldnt think of any list in mercs with models he had that could play in to my list) and i whipped out Jadens winter argus spam with Kaya 3. Unfortunately, it turns out that Wraithbane is a thing. On my turn 3 i had killed three heavies, leaving him with an avalancher and a Rover (who could not reach anything in melee) and my feat was up and i was camping 2 behind a wall. We called it there too. His list seemed really weak (as i was arguing when he came up with it lol) so i wouldnt read too much in to it.
In related news, i have now ordered a full contingent of tharn models... So im poor now
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Post by LoS Jaden on Oct 4, 2018 21:00:16 GMT
How did you enjoy the Kaya 3 list? I really enjoy going "freezer, reposition" 5 times and watching people realize what a massive puzzle it all is.
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Post by Trollock on Oct 4, 2018 22:27:38 GMT
How did you enjoy the Kaya 3 list? I really enjoy going "freezer, reposition" 5 times and watching people realize what a massive puzzle it all is. It was fun, but i didnt get to do that. He shot me a bit, then feated so i couldnt move and shot me more. Then i killed all his stuff. I need more reps with the list for sure.
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Post by Trollock on Oct 9, 2018 20:06:12 GMT
Tharn A to Z (or B to W...) Im looking at the last CID rules and im thinking that basically every one can probably play Tharn if this goes live and im really excited! But where to begin? Turns out that i have tried two Warlocks so far, and they were in alphabetical order. First out was Baldur 1, then was Baldur 2. Rather than agonizing over where to begin, i decided that i will play a couple of games with each (reasonable) caster in alphabetical order and try them out. After that ill think about mastering them hehe.
Baldur 1 Played him during the actual CID and he felt really strong. I LOVE Solid Ground for the Tharn ladies, and an ARM buff for Ghetorix is super strong. Though i did not test it i think Loki might have merit too, as he allows you to pull in a heavy and kill it (with another heavy or B&C), and then not be retaliated upon thanks to the feat. You could alpha again the next turn if you are really lucky. The Well seems very good with him as 14" is way better than 12" of slowing terrain. Also, there are so many potentially free models that you actually want in DH that you can bring in one more and not have it be superfluous. Also, Baldur really wants to skimp on the Ravager Shaman, as he already makes the Ravagers steady, but you can bring one in if you need the magic weapons. Super good!
Baldur 2 As i have recently explained, the combo of Roots and Wall with Ghetorix and Loki is a very tilting one. Baldur does nothing for the rest of the list, but there are many self sufficient Tharn models you can bring to get 2 free models at least. This can be a very good tournament list, as if you run up against an opponent who doesnt fully understand just how difficult your beasts are to kill, you can get easy wins. It is a very strong "question" list.
Grayle So, hes next in line. Haven't played him before, and haven't really felt the urge either. At a glance he buffs infantry, but perhaps not the Tharn as much as one would hope. Still, i said id play all reasonable casters and he ought to be at least reasonable. Im looking at bringing the super busted Caul for one. Storm Rager on him seems absolutely bonkers, if you can load up on corpses. For that you would want either the Well, or the Croc Pot. I am leaning towards the Well, even if it is less reliable, as it also gives extra control Range and it does some work. The Croc Pot can do work as well, but not if you are giving out corpses. The price is very similar as you get a 5 point solo if you bring the well, and the option to have "specialist" solos is very neat.
Death March can be placed on Ravagers, but i actually think that Blood Trackers might be the better option. They fight well in melee, and as a frontline unit they will take casualties. They could potentially trade favorably against enemy front line units unless they get blown up by blasts lol.
The feat though seems very well suited for delivering melee units such as the Ravagers. Before playing Grayle it looks like you will either get the "warpath" benefit from the feat or the stealth part, but rarely will both be useful. I think Ravagers are reasonable with him still though, even if the feat is all the support they get.
Not sure what else should be included in the list. Loki could pull in a heavy and ding it up good, and then Grayle could finish it off and sprint back perhaps? Stalkers with "warpath" should be amazing against many things, but with no MAT fixer for it it might not be as good in practice. Ill tinker on a list and see what i can come up with for next week.
Cherios! /T
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Post by streetpizza on Oct 9, 2018 20:12:12 GMT
When looking at Grayle also keep in mind that death march can go on B&C. Shield guard a lowish pow shot with Caul to trigger vengeance and then you're off to the races with storm rager next turn. After you've fired the tactical nuke DM goes on another target. SR is also a fantastic buff for the lord of the feast or wolf rider solos. Circle Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] The Devourer's Host !!! Your army contains CID entries. [Grayle 1] Grayle the Farstrider [+29] - Feral Warpwolf [16] - Ghetorix [19] - Wild Argus [7] - Tharn Blood Shaman [5] Lord of the Feast [6] Tharn Wolf Rider Champion [0(7)] Tharn Wolf Rider Champion [0(7)] Boil Master & Spirit Cauldron [5] Bríghid & Caul [7] Tharn Bloodtrackers (max) [15] - Nuala the Huntress [4] Tharn Ravagers (max) [15] - Tharn Ravager Chieftain [5] Or using your own suggested edits conflictchamber.com/#c8201b_-0j5BmDmKmRmI5imUmUjXmSmF5q4_mj5wCircle Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] The Devourer's Host !!! Your army contains CID entries. [Grayle 1] Grayle the Farstrider [+29] - Feral Warpwolf [16] - Ghetorix [19] - Tharn Blood Shaman [5] Lord of the Feast [0(6)] Tharn Ravager White Mane [5] Tharn Wolf Rider Champion [0(7)] Tharn Wolf Rider Champion [0(7)] Boil Master & Spirit Cauldron [5] Bríghid & Caul [7] Tharn Bloodtrackers (max) [15] - Nuala the Huntress [4] Tharn Bloodweavers [8] Tharn Ravagers (max) [15] - Tharn Ravager Chieftain [5]
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Post by Trollock on Oct 9, 2018 20:19:04 GMT
First Draft for Grayle: conflictchamber.com/#c8201b_-0j5BmDmDmR5imUmUmSmF5q4_mj5wmTCircle Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] The Devourer's Host !!! Your army contains CID entries. [Grayle 1] Grayle the Farstrider [+29] - Feral Warpwolf [16] - Feral Warpwolf [16] - Tharn Blood Shaman [5] Tharn Ravager White Mane [5] Tharn Wolf Rider Champion [0(7)] Tharn Wolf Rider Champion [0(7)] Bríghid & Caul [7] Tharn Bloodtrackers (max) [15] - Nuala the Huntress [0(4)] Tharn Bloodweavers [8] Tharn Ravagers (max) [15] - Tharn Ravager Chieftain [5] Well of Orboros [12] What do you think? Am i missing something obvious?
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