mazog
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Post by mazog on Jun 4, 2018 4:27:14 GMT
I've got started on my fire eaters, and for reasons I don't recall decided that the booze is green and glowing. I'm having trouble googling for methods to paint liquids, all my search results get spammed with articles about thinning paints or random hobby stuff to buy. Can y'all point me at a good tutorial about painting flowing fluids, at least, with bonus points if there is one about glowing flowing fluids?
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Post by fallenexile on Jun 4, 2018 6:28:59 GMT
Articles on painting solid objects like liquid-filled glass may vome in handy. Just treat each section of the flowing liquid like its own container? Then gloss coat it.
Also tutorials on OSL would help with the glow.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Jun 4, 2018 6:30:54 GMT
I don't really understand what you mean by "painting flowing fluids". Are you talking about droplets and rivulets of green alcoholic beverage flowing down from the fire eater's faces? I guess I would normally suggest mixing the underlying skin (or other material) colour with the liquid colour (or painting with the flesh colour and glazing with the liquid colour on top) to suggest transparency (if you want it to look transparent), and finishing with a gloss coat to make it look wet. But if you want to make it look like it's glowing, well, I guess you paint it the same way you paint anything that glows? Look for "OSL" tutorials I guess. I'm wondering if using similar techniques to painting gemstones might work, since light basically behaves the same way with both? Something like this maybe: Out of curiosity I did a quick search using terms like "miniature painting slime", and here's the most relevant result I found: sproketsmallworld.blogspot.com/2011/07/step-by-step-guide-to-adding-slime-and.html. This is a tutorial for adding drips of liquid, but the photos of the end result at least might be useful:
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Post by mazog on Jun 5, 2018 3:17:11 GMT
The grunts both have a bit of booze coming out of their containers. The pyg bottle has just a little coming out that I didn't even notice until I started painting the bottle, and the trollkin has booze spoiling from his cup. That picture looked interesting, when I get back to a computer I shall have to follow your research! Slime is a great keyword that I would not have thought of. Thanks!
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Post by mazog on Jun 5, 2018 5:16:10 GMT
The other thing is I am having trouble deciding where to make the glow the strongest on the liquid itself. The OSL part I feel okay about, which is probably just Dunning-Krueger effect, but fluids bend light in all sorts of interesting ways, and when they are sourcing the light, also, it breaks my brain. I have to admit, I have a background in physics, so I am thinking about ray tracing and caustics when I think about light and fluids, which is probably thinking too hard about it.
You aren't the first person to suggest looking at gems. I suppose when I think about gems I'm thinking about faceted gems, but you all must be talking about gems with smooth curves. I'll look into it.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Jun 5, 2018 6:35:53 GMT
The other thing is I am having trouble deciding where to make the glow the strongest on the liquid itself. The OSL part I feel okay about, which is probably just Dunning-Krueger effect, but fluids bend light in all sorts of interesting ways, and when they are sourcing the light, also, it breaks my brain. I have to admit, I have a background in physics, so I am thinking about ray tracing and caustics when I think about light and fluids, which is probably thinking too hard about it. You aren't the first person to suggest looking at gems. I suppose when I think about gems I'm thinking about faceted gems, but you all must be talking about gems with smooth curves. I'll look into it. If the liquid is glowing with any reasonable strength that glow would overpower the internally reflected light - at least enough that you shouldn't need to worry about it for painting a few drops on a mini (look up photos of glow sticks for example). In fact I suspect that trying to do two types of lighting at the same time would just make the mini look confusing and hard to read. And yes, I was talking about smooth gems. I figure if you paint a gemstone effect but with less contrast (so you don't go as dark or light, and maybe show more of the underlying surface rather than using the pure gemstone colour), and of course finish it with a gloss coat, then you'll probably have something that reads quite well as a liquid. But again, that's for a non-glowing liquid. I'm quite fond of this example of complex gems:
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Post by mazog on Jun 5, 2018 12:32:24 GMT
Ok, that sold me on the gem comparison. Having the glow overpower the reflections also makes sense. That idol sold me on the fluid/gem similarity, too, and I think it will be a reference piece for me in the future, thanks again!
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