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Post by shroomvolcano on Jun 19, 2018 15:57:17 GMT
Circle has a lot of Northern influence, wolves/goats/druids/etc, so I think a jungle theme would differentiate quite well. Maybe like an Aztec/Mayan theme would be pretty sweet. What would their shtick be though? Lots of terrain play, pathfinder, etc is more what I was thinking about the Circle territory. Grymkin have arcana, Crucible Guard have all their ammo types/flexibility. Would Zu lean more towards the spell side of things with the religion that NQ article mentioned? Sacrifice theme maybe? Or maybe that's too Blindwater. Or maybe a different kind of Fury management system where you want to make Frenzy checks or something? That might be neat. The people of Zu are riled up at the intrusion of these explorers, maybe? They found a relic and brought it back maybe not realizing it's cursed or important? I think there was a troll migration at the end of one of the books as well.
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Post by jisidro on Jun 19, 2018 16:27:07 GMT
Why would Zu peoples bother with Immoren? they are not close Geographically as far as I am aware, and the Iron Kingdoms seem too busy fighting each other to focus on exploration/colonisation. Is there reason for conflict between the two continents? Am not a fluff reader so curious to know. Not so long ago (500 years) the Portuguese and the Spanish decide that nothing was too far away... Seems to have had an effect on the world Perhaps on the Iron Kingdoms Zu will play the part of the Old World?
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Post by Choco on Jun 19, 2018 16:28:33 GMT
What would their shtick be though? Lots of terrain play, pathfinder, etc is more what I was thinking about the Circle territory. Grymkin have arcana, Crucible Guard have all their ammo types/flexibility. Would Zu lean more towards the spell side of things with the religion that NQ article mentioned? Sacrifice theme maybe? Or maybe that's too Blindwater. Or maybe a different kind of Fury management system where you want to make Frenzy checks or something? That might be neat. The people of Zu are riled up at the intrusion of these explorers, maybe? They found a relic and brought it back maybe not realizing it's cursed or important? I think there was a troll migration at the end of one of the books as well. I'm not fully up on the fluff but Trolls did move to the southern parts of Immoren. Also, Immoren has had traders with established routes and such with Zu for a while now. It's been pretty recent in the grand scheme of things, but there is a connection with them already. There is so much speculation about what it could be, that anything is up in the air. To be honest, did anyone even consider Grymkin or Crucible Guard, like was there any reason for us to even have a clue it could happen? They might blindside us with something completely out of left field for all that we know.
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Jun 19, 2018 16:48:17 GMT
Why would Zu peoples bother with Immoren? they are not close Geographically as far as I am aware, and the Iron Kingdoms seem too busy fighting each other to focus on exploration/colonisation. Is there reason for conflict between the two continents? Am not a fluff reader so curious to know. Not so long ago (500 years) the Portuguese and the Spanish decide that nothing was too far away... Seems to have had an effect on the world Perhaps on the Iron Kingdoms Zu will play the part of the Old World? Until us Brits went and did it better
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Post by jisidro on Jun 19, 2018 16:54:26 GMT
Not so long ago (500 years) the Portuguese and the Spanish decide that nothing was too far away... Seems to have had an effect on the world Perhaps on the Iron Kingdoms Zu will play the part of the Old World? Until us Brits went and did it better Not sure if "better" and "colonialism" go well together but, yes, the British empire lasted longer... except on China who made sure Hong-Kong got back into the fold before Macau. If you haven't read Shogun (by James Clavell) I recommend it and I'll call your attention to the first thoughts of the intrepid British Hero Blackthorne.
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Post by scarecrow on Jun 19, 2018 17:21:29 GMT
There is so much speculation about what it could be, that anything is up in the air. To be honest, did anyone even consider Grymkin or Crucible Guard, like was there any reason for us to even have a clue it could happen? They might blindside us with something completely out of left field for all that we know. That's very true, I'm just wish-listing at this point. Of all the ideas I've seen people throw around, the possibilities for Zu are what make me the most excited to potentially buy into
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Jun 19, 2018 17:22:29 GMT
Until us Brits went and did it better Not sure if "better" and "colonialism" go well together but, yes, the British empire lasted longer... except on China who made sure Hong-Kong got back into the fold before Macau. If you haven't read Shogun (by James Clavell) I recommend it and I'll call your attention to the first thoughts of the intrepid British Hero Blackthorne. Don't worry, I don't have rose-tinted glasses about the whole thing, hence my winky face
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Post by ForEver_Blight on Jun 19, 2018 19:13:29 GMT
If you haven't read Shogun (by James Clavell) I recommend it and I'll call your attention to the first thoughts of the intrepid British Hero Blackthorne. My wife got me that book... but it's printed on post-it notes and a foot thick. It's actually the most infuriating book I've ever tried to read. You have to split the binding to read the words that trail off into the abyss.
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Jun 19, 2018 19:37:39 GMT
If you haven't read Shogun (by James Clavell) I recommend it and I'll call your attention to the first thoughts of the intrepid British Hero Blackthorne. My wife got me that book... but it's printed on post-it notes and a foot thick. It's actually the most infuriating book I've ever tried to read. You have to split the binding to read the words that trail off into the abyss.
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A book I enjoyed was 'Guns, Germs and Steel' by Jared Diamond, he uses geography and bio-geography to explain why the world is as it is today.
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Post by jisidro on Jun 20, 2018 9:01:19 GMT
My wife got me that book... but it's printed on post-it notes and a foot thick. It's actually the most infuriating book I've ever tried to read. You have to split the binding to read the words that trail off into the abyss.
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A book I enjoyed was 'Guns, Germs and Steel' by Jared Diamond, he uses geography and bio-geography to explain why the world is as it is today. The title screams positivity Have to check it out!
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Post by Blargaliscious on Jun 20, 2018 19:17:55 GMT
A book I enjoyed was 'Guns, Germs and Steel' by Jared Diamond, he uses geography and bio-geography to explain why the world is as it is today. The title screams positivity Have to check it out! It's an excellent book, but it's a bit of a thick read at times bogging down in some of the sub topics. It does a good job of describing how things came to be the way they did without defaulting to any exceptionalism arguments. Back on topic, if PP stays true to the fluff Zu would be a hard choice to justify unless some of the "mysterious dark interior" that outsiders aren't allowed to see gets explained. The old No Quarter issue that talked about Zu mentioned that the ocean voyage between Immoren an Zu was long and rough. Transporting warjacks is one thing, warbeasts would be another.
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Post by jisidro on Jun 20, 2018 22:49:33 GMT
Circle just teleports around On last year's christmas fiction Krueger planned to send a ayfarer to Zu... while it wasn't an official fiction (afaik) they probably followed the created setting with christmas as the exception.
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Post by scarecrow on Jun 21, 2018 1:37:40 GMT
Skorne appeared from across a desert that's the eastern edge of the known Iron Kingdoms, Grymkin essentially came through a portal from hell; I have a feeling they could fit Zu in if that's what they wanted.
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Post by Juris on Jun 21, 2018 20:20:56 GMT
Why would Zu peoples bother with Immoren? they are not close Geographically as far as I am aware, and the Iron Kingdoms seem too busy fighting each other to focus on exploration/colonisation. Is there reason for conflict between the two continents? Am not a fluff reader so curious to know. Not so long ago (500 years) the Portuguese and the Spanish decide that nothing was too far away... Seems to have had an effect on the world Perhaps on the Iron Kingdoms Zu will play the part of the Old World? The Old World or the New?
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Post by Juris on Jun 21, 2018 20:24:24 GMT
Skorne appeared from across a desert that's the eastern edge of the known Iron Kingdoms, Grymkin essentially came through a portal from hell; I have a feeling they could fit Zu in if that's what they wanted. The Iosan gods aren't dead; they're being held prisoner by some civilization in Zu. That civilization forces them to open a bridge between their lands and the Iron Kingdoms. Queue invasion. Now, Empress Vanar is wondering what Zu Khador will look like.
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