crow
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Post by crow on May 27, 2018 6:06:15 GMT
Hey guys! So I've got a tournament coming up in the next few months, and I know what one list I'm gonna bring is... but I'm having issues deciding what I want to bring for my second list. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be using the list tanan built for Gorten (which for those of you who haven't seen it is);
Hammerstrike
Gorten +31
-Rockram 14
-Basher 9
-Basher 9
-Avalancher 17
Thor 4
- Avalancher 17
Brun & Lug 16
TAC 7
TAC 7
HAC 6
HAC (Free)
As for my problem I'm kind of thinking of two different ideas...
Irregulars
Bart +25
-Galleon 39
-Freebooter 9
-Freebooter 9
-Bucaneer 6
-Bucaneer 6
-Bucaneer 6
-Sylys (free)
Commodore 7
Aiyana and Holdt 8
Devil Shadow 8
Gobber Tinker 2
Rockbottom (free)
Orin Midwinter (free)
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Operating Theatre
Thexus +28
-Warden 10
-Warden 10
-Warden 10
Gun Mages 9
-Dominator 1
Gun Mages 9
-Dominator 1
Agitator 3
Agitator 3
Pistol Wraith 5
Mind Slavers (max) 12
Mind Slavers (max) 12
Mind Bender (min) 7
Mind Bender (max) 11
Overlords (free)
Overlords (free)
Both are to cover Gorten's lack of powerful magical weapons, and still have scenario presence. I feel Thexus has more scenario, but Bart deals with the whole magic weapons deal better. I also feel like they ask different questions... Bart asks if you can deal with that many jacks, buffed by his armor spells, and Thexus asks if you can handle the doodz while he pushes you around... I'm just kinda stuck... thoughts?
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shoe
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Post by shoe on May 27, 2018 6:38:01 GMT
ur bart list is not asking the question u think it is asking because the buc's arm is too low
this one is
War Room Army
Mercenary - Bart and his pals
Theme: The Irregulars
4 / 4 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Captain Bartolo Montador - WJ: +26
- Sylys Wyshnalyrr, The Seeker - PC: 0
- Galleon - PC: 39 (Battlegroup Points Used: 26)
- Talon - PC: 7
- Talon - PC: 7
- Talon - PC: 7
- Talon - PC: 7
- Talon - PC: 7
- Freebooter - PC: 9
Orin Midwinter, Rogue Inquisitor - PC: 0
Ragman - PC: 0
Lanyssa Ryssyl, Nyss Sorceress - PC: 0
Lady Aiyana & Master Holt - Lady Aiyana & Master Holt: 8
Kayazy Eliminators - Leader & Grunt: 5
Kayazy Eliminators - Leader & Grunt: 5
THEME: The Irregulars
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GENERATED : 05/26/2018 23:32:48
BUILD ID : 2066.18-05-11
also you are wasting 11 points on that silly cannon and rockbottom and you have no units to get up the board and contest different things so you have to give up a light to avoid getting behind on scenario
that gobber tinker is costing you a free solo. it could be the free solo and it would still be better
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crow
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Post by crow on May 27, 2018 6:43:06 GMT
ur bart list is not asking the question u think it is asking because the buc's arm is too low this one is War Room Army Mercenary - Bart and his pals Theme: The Irregulars 4 / 4 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army Captain Bartolo Montador - WJ: +26 - Sylys Wyshnalyrr, The Seeker - PC: 0 - Galleon - PC: 39 (Battlegroup Points Used: 26) - Talon - PC: 7 - Talon - PC: 7 - Talon - PC: 7 - Talon - PC: 7 - Talon - PC: 7 - Freebooter - PC: 9 Orin Midwinter, Rogue Inquisitor - PC: 0 Ragman - PC: 0 Lanyssa Ryssyl, Nyss Sorceress - PC: 0 Lady Aiyana & Master Holt - Lady Aiyana & Master Holt: 8 Kayazy Eliminators - Leader & Grunt: 5 Kayazy Eliminators - Leader & Grunt: 5 THEME: The Irregulars --- GENERATED : 05/26/2018 23:32:48 BUILD ID : 2066.18-05-11 See problem is... I don't own that many Talons... nore am I big fan... I find they don't hit hard enough and just kinda die. Then again I'm in a Hordes heavy meta, so I might be biased. As for the suggestion about the Buc's arm being to low... I think you're right. I keep looking at it... and the bucs may allow the free booters to trash... but they will probably die shortly after... Oh also I don't own Eliminators... not a fan of Khador stuff on a whole. |
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shoe
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Post by shoe on May 27, 2018 6:47:45 GMT
eliminators are a top 5 unit in the whooooole gaem and keep u in scenario. a pity u dislike them so
perhaps if u painted them khahkhi like a dorf
also, u know wat talons can do to hordes beasts? slam them
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Post by Soul Samurai on May 27, 2018 7:29:25 GMT
not a fan of Khador stuff on a whole  |
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on May 27, 2018 8:59:33 GMT
Played Bart for the first time at a local Steamroller yesterday...very nice!
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Fang
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Post by Fang on May 27, 2018 10:10:26 GMT
See problem is... I don't own that many Talons... nore am I big fan... I find they don't hit hard enough and just kinda die. Then again I'm in a Hordes heavy meta, so I might be biased. As for the suggestion about the Buc's arm being to low... I think you're right. I keep looking at it... and the bucs may allow the free booters to trash... but they will probably die shortly after... Oh also I don't own Eliminators... not a fan of Khador stuff on a whole. How many talons do you own? Related question, do you like magnets and are up to making shields + spears for buccy/talon kits? =P But without changing your original list much, one thing you really should do (think shoe mentioned it as well) is put two points more into your jacks/units to get the 4th freebie, which can be the tinkerer or any solo of liking. |
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Post by leotherat on May 27, 2018 21:49:43 GMT
shoe- why Orin and not Ellish? Ellish gives better magic protection and puppet strings.
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shoe
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Post by shoe on May 28, 2018 2:20:04 GMT
shoe- why Orin and not Ellish? Ellish gives better magic protection and puppet strings. because u nono want blinding light, parasite or suchlike ruining ur day also chain litening kills many mans |
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shoe
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Post by shoe on May 28, 2018 3:03:55 GMT
played bart ina tournament today and lost both games with him. teh game has passed him by. nemo3 shots him right off teh baords and lucant gets the arm up even higher and also has positive charge. i will be pointing dis out come cid time
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crow
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Post by crow on May 28, 2018 3:13:32 GMT
Well it looks like I don’t have what would be needed to play Bart, so that’s kinda lame... on the plus side though I played the cephalyx list I built today, and it performed quite well. Gun mages with tough and a boat load of troops to hide behind aloud them to get where they needed and get some shots off. The three wardens gave me shield guards that kept my unit leaders safe from the little bit of shooting that came their way, and as always, I love the movement shinanigans that Thexus brings! Just wanna thank everyone for helping me narrow the choice down!
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on May 28, 2018 9:11:41 GMT
I have Orin in my Bart list, was great into Vayl 2, completely removed her assassination as an option
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Post by krunstal on May 29, 2018 21:00:19 GMT
Well it looks like I don’t have what would be needed to play Bart, so that’s kinda lame... on the plus side though I played the cephalyx list I built today, and it performed quite well. Gun mages with tough and a boat load of troops to hide behind aloud them to get where they needed and get some shots off. The three wardens gave me shield guards that kept my unit leaders safe from the little bit of shooting that came their way, and as always, I love the movement shinanigans that Thexus brings! Just wanna thank everyone for helping me narrow the choice down! Did you find the aggitators helpful in this list? I have been torn on whether to keep them in a similar list that I am building or not. |
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crow
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Post by crow on May 29, 2018 21:52:55 GMT
Did you find the aggitators helpful in this list? I have been torn on whether to keep them in a similar list that I am building or not. The game didn’t go long enough for them to make a difference really no. I’ve started to realize that I need to use my drudges to get more work done before sending in the monstrosities. So until I need the wardens to go in, I don’t really need the agitators. I think I had one damage a warden for a focus so it could run into channeling position for Thexus, but that was it. Late game though having a POW 16 would have been better then a POW 14 IMO. Guess it depends on how quickly you plan on winning  |
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Xintas
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Post by Xintas on Jun 12, 2018 13:49:44 GMT
Are the gun mages working for you? I may be looking at kitbashing myself some cephalyx but don't want to do the whole project without knowing roughly how many points worth of dudes I need.
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