crimsyn
Junior Strategist
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Post by crimsyn on May 12, 2018 4:20:50 GMT
Probably stupid, but...
War Room Army
Khador - New Army
Theme: Jaws of the Wolf 7 / 7 Free Cards 125 / 125 Army
Cylena Raefyll, Guardian of Nyssor - WJ: +28 - Destroyer - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 14) - Destroyer - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 14) Kommander Harkevich, The Iron Wolf - WJ: +28 - Victor - PC: 34 (Battlegroup Points Used: 28) - Victor - PC: 34 - Victor - PC: 34 - Victor - PC: 34 - Destroyer - PC: 14
Greylord Forge Seer - PC: 0 Greylord Forge Seer - PC: 0 Greylord Forge Seer - PC: 0 Greylord Forge Seer - PC: 0 Yuri the Axe - PC: 0 Widowmaker Marksman - PC: 0 Manhunter - PC: 0
Battle Mechaniks - Leader & 3 Grunts: 3
THEME: Jaws of the Wolf ---
GENERATED : 05/12/2018 00:19:38 BUILD ID : 2065.18-05-07
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Post by Soul Samurai on May 12, 2018 4:34:36 GMT
Foc 7. 12" longbow with crit freeze. Spells: Energizer, FFe, Hoarfrost, Shatter storm, Wind blast (the V2 anti-cloud thing), Razor wind. Feat: friendly models get +3 rat, blast weapons do POW damage to all hit instead of blast damage. Kinda meh, a smorgasbord of stuff we had before. She has pretty much ideal toolbox for wgk, but V1 still hits for more and can use Spriggan for clouds. Would be great Cryx drop and that's about it. Thanks! The spells seem to double-down on the cold theme, but I'm not exactly seeing a gameplay theme beyond "shooting stuff"? I guess I would have expected more stuff that mirrored the Nyss Hunter's strengths: pathfinder, high speed, high DEF, Hunter (and for us at least the ability to reposition thanks to Valachev). So maybe a way to had out Pathfinder and Hunter to infantry and buff their DEF? And possibly Reposition? Funnily enough since you wouldn't be able to actually take Nyss Hunters with her, she actually has LESS access to Hunter than any other Khadoran caster.
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Post by Mr.Human on May 22, 2018 10:59:49 GMT
Quite old thread, but have to comment that Cylene was a very weird choice. Aslynn would have been the perfect fit, her finally accepting Khadorian rule . I think the High Command would have forgiven her past deeds.
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Post by Soul Samurai on May 22, 2018 12:52:58 GMT
Quite old thread, but have to comment that Cylene was a very weird choice. Aslynn would have been the perfect fit, her finally accepting Khadorian rule . I think the High Command would have forgiven her past deeds. I like this idea. Perhaps, growing sick of the corruption of the Llaelese nobles she actively sided with Khador and helped them to take Llael in the first place?
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Post by tesoe on May 22, 2018 18:46:51 GMT
I kinda want to get some Retribution Jack bits and make a visually confusing MoW list.
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Post by welshhoppo on May 22, 2018 22:17:41 GMT
Quite old thread, but have to comment that Cylene was a very weird choice. Aslynn would have been the perfect fit, her finally accepting Khadorian rule . I think the High Command would have forgiven her past deeds. I like this idea. Perhaps, growing sick of the corruption of the Llaelese nobles she actively sided with Khador and helped them to take Llael in the first place? Well these rules are remakes from mki. It makes sense seeing as the Nyss used to live in Khador before they joined up with their racist hillbilly cousins.
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Post by Mr.Human on May 23, 2018 5:30:47 GMT
I like this idea. Perhaps, growing sick of the corruption of the Llaelese nobles she actively sided with Khador and helped them to take Llael in the first place? Well these rules are remakes from mki. It makes sense seeing as the Nyss used to live in Khador before they joined up with their racist hillbilly cousins. Still a bit far fetched imo. She could also be persuaded by giving her some titel in Llaelese, tie her both to Khador and tie her people with Khador via her. Send Harkevich to show her not every Khadorian sees the people as expendable resources. PP, can Khador get Ashlynn 2 please
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Post by welshhoppo on May 23, 2018 8:00:31 GMT
Well these rules are remakes from mki. It makes sense seeing as the Nyss used to live in Khador before they joined up with their racist hillbilly cousins. Still a bit far fetched imo. She could also be persuaded by giving her some titel in Llaelese, tie her both to Khador and tie her people with Khador via her. Send Harkevich to show her not every Khadorian sees the people as expendable resources. PP, can Khador get Ashlynn 2 please You must have missed the part where Irusk tests out the High explosive rule of the mortars on her dad.....
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Post by Mr.Human on May 23, 2018 11:25:35 GMT
Oh, I didn't, but all is fair in love and war. I was actually going to propose she marries Karchev for political reasons, wasn't it him who cut down some nobles family line she new
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Post by Armchair Warrior on Jun 3, 2018 2:48:12 GMT
Here are the cards (sorry I had to cut off the “Windstorm” text but that’s the last spell). Some additional thoughts... 1) Annoying that she didn’t go through CID and isn’t tournament legal. 2) In WGK, the battle engine with her will simply rock. 3) She’s friggin DEF 17. So if you brought cloud tech, or there’s a forest, she’s DEF 19. 4) Energizer is randomly useful, so in WGK with Sorscha 0 she’d be solid. 5) More mortars. 6) Armored Korp would be quite good with her. 7) Victor anyone? (FFE...mmmm). And Destroyers.
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Post by Soul Samurai on Jun 3, 2018 5:53:01 GMT
Thanks for posting them.
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Post by welshhoppo on Jun 3, 2018 12:53:10 GMT
Here are the cards (sorry I had to cut off the “Windstorm” text but that’s the last spell). Some additional thoughts... 1) Annoying that she didn’t go through CID and isn’t tournament legal. 2) In WGK, the battle engine with her will simply rock. 3) She’s friggin DEF 17. So if you brought cloud tech, or there’s a forest, she’s DEF 19. 4) Energizer is randomly useful, so in WGK with Sorscha 0 she’d be solid. 5) More mortars. 6) Armored Korp would be quite good with her. 7) Victor anyone? (FFE...mmmm). And Destroyers. A FFE Victor under feat would take out whole battle groups in one hit.
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Post by Armchair Warrior on Jun 3, 2018 21:22:29 GMT
Indeed, weapon master POW 15 blast damage has a certain appeal. Behemoth (who cares not for the FFE) and Destroyers (who do) are also randomly awesome. With Energizer and free juniors (specifically Sorscha with a destroyer, and maybe Malakov with a Victor) she could make an interesting Jaws caster with a battle group stuffed full of ranged jacks (that THAT, harkevich).
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Post by Blargaliscious on Jun 4, 2018 3:00:25 GMT
Victor: very cool with FFE and the feat, but can't take advantage of the spell Energizer
Behemoth: Interesting with the feat, but you can't take it in WGK where the dirt-cheap mortars are, which would be very nice under the feat. Yes, they are Inaccurate, but their MAT fixers are the cheaper Field Guns and the yet even cheaper Artillery Kapitan.
Destroyers are obvious picks. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Demolisher yet. it has 2x AOE3 POW15 attacks. Granted, they are RNG 8, but with Energizer and ARM23 that shouldn't be that big of a deal.
One other thing: I don't think anyone has mentioned that Cylena's feat affects friendly models, not friendly faction. I have Herne & Jonne in my first swag of a list.
War Room Army
Khador - Cylena WGK w/ more Rocketeers
Theme: Winter Guard Kommand 2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Cylena Raefyll, Guardian of Nyssor - WJ: +28 - Destroyer - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 14) - Destroyer - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 14) - Demolisher - PC: 16
Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich - PC: 4 Winter Guard Artillery Kapitan - PC: 3
Herne & Jonne - Herne & Jonne: 5 Winter Guard Infantry - Leader & 9 Grunts: 10 - Winter Guard Infantry Officer & Standard - Officer & Standard: 4 - Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2 - Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2 - Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2 Winter Guard Mortar Crew - Gunner & Grunt: 0 Winter Guard Mortar Crew - Gunner & Grunt: 0 Winter Guard Rifle Corps - Leader & 9 Grunts: 13 - Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2 - Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2 - Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2 Winter Guard Field Gun Crew - Gunner & 2 Grunts: 4 Winter Guard Field Gun Crew - Gunner & 2 Grunts: 4
THEME: Winter Guard Kommand ---
GENERATED : 06/03/2018 23:13:08 BUILD ID : 2066.18-05-11
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Post by tesoe on Jun 4, 2018 19:13:11 GMT
Something else that I don't remember if it was brought up or not, models effected by her feat don't deal blast damage. So models immune to blast damage (trenchers, girded) still take damage if they are in the AOE.
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